The official Mayweather vs. Pacquiao aftermath trash receptacle

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  1. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What an ignorant statement. You realize that BALTIMORE is a city, under the umbrella of a state, that's under the umbrella of a country that has set policies about everything?

    That's like Pretty much saying that a subsidiary company can make moves without the main company's permission. :tired
     
  2. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't give me that institutionalized racism garbage. The United States is not a racist country, and those who think the color of their skin has any bearing on their lot in life, I completely reject that line of thought.

    Some people seem to believe our criminal justice system works in 4 hours. It doesn't. Police brutality isn't limited to just "black people" either. But it seems they do the best to burn down their own communities and chase business/jobs away. (As if that really helps their situation)

    If you want to solve problems in black communities, we can start with the fact that approximately 7 out of every 10 children from those communities are raised in single parent homes. If you feel that's a "recipe for success" we'll have to agree to disagree.
     
  3. dannyboy147

    dannyboy147 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    May 3rd Pacquiao fans become Golovkin fans and it all starts again. After JMM knocked out Pac this forum was pac**** free for months.
     
  4. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    My whole life has been a lie then :lol:

    Alright man. You're uninformed, which is fine.

    Murica's not racist? :rofl
     
  5. victor879

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    Yes, America as a whole is not a racist country. There will always be ignorant people in life, but the large majority of the country is not racist. "Being black" isn't going to stop you from succeeding if you work hard and have a positive attitude. That's just reality son.

    Yes, you've been told a lie. You probably don't even know blacks owned slaves in the South and some even supported the Confederacy. The first African indentured servant that was sued for in court to be kept for life, was sued for possession by another African. (During the Colonial Era, look it up) Fun fact for you. Slavery and discrimination aren't American inventions pal.

    If you want to claim "the country is racist" when the top position in law enforcement and the executive branch is occupied by black people, I don't know what to tell you. Black people have literally been in the most powerful offices in the country. No argument, sorry.

    Like I said: 7 out of 10 black children are raised in single parent homes. That's just a fact. Do you feel that is a recipe for success? Who has the advantage? A child with two hard working parents? Or a child with 1 parent?

    If you want to continue to claim it's "racism" that causes black men to not raise their children, I'd be glad to hear why. I see it for what it is, and it's a community problem, not a racism problem. My friend from South Side Chicago wasn't worried about "racist white people" beating him up on his way from school because he was reading. It was his "fellow brothers." Tell me how that helps young black men?
     
  6. Pimp C

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    Please Gentlemen leave the politics out of this thread. We have the biggest fight of this era taking place tomorrow.

    Thanks:good
     
  7. Thread Stealer

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    People will still be whining and making excuses after tomorrow night no matter what happens.
     
  8. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know everything about my history. There's nothing you can teach me about the black experience or black history. Racism in itself is a concept CREATED by whites in order to segregate and dismantle the black establishment,

    Secondly, racism is taught. Both directly and indirectly. It has nothing to do with ignorance and everything to do with conditioning. Racism in its most simple form, is just an idea. Nothing more. It wasnt formed from ignorance.

    The only ignorance being spoken here are the soliloquies you're typing, and you're showcasing your racism while doing it. Throwing out misleading facts to dodge and avoid the true problem, which is white supremacy.

    B-b--b but there were a couple of black people who owned black people too, white people were only 99% :p

    But this is what a good share of racist whites do. Dodge and shift blame to avoid the truth. Which is your right, but your pseudo intellectualism is transparent, and only serves as a Shield to avoid the discomfort that comes with admitting that historically whites are the most savage race of humans In Amerian History. It's easier to point out the results and the effects then it is to point out the roots and the cause.

    It's fight week though, so don't worry about it.

    As for you the whole single black mother issue? A lot of it is as I said, Predestined Poverty, and lack of a moral compass which are things you recieve as a black man in America. Born into poverty, *** without the means of being a father, lack of education and funds forced on us due to lack of generation wealth

    I'm on my way to Journalism School at Colombia after I graduate from my school, already accepted. But it wasn't without realizing that America forced a conscience from me and stole my moral compass, and I worked hard to get it back
     
  9. Scar

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    Depending on the result, it could be the beginning rather than the end.
     
  10. victor879

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    During the slavery era, by percantage, a freed black person was just as likely to own slaves as a white person. You're wrong. The percentages per the population were nearly identical. You even had black slave owners support the Confederate Army.

    Slavery was created by "white men?" Now I've heard it all. Open a history book please. Slavery has existed throughout human history, and is still present today. Africans had slaves too, so did the American Indians.


    You still haven't addressed the fact that approximately 7 out of every 10 black children are raised in single parent homes. You don't think that has a profound impact on the future success of the younger generation? Again: My friend in college was from S. Chicago. He had to hide his books to avoid getting jumped. It wasn't "racist white people" trying to hold him down, it was his own "brothers."
     
  11. DSG496

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    think there's going to be a rematch it won't end.

    When it does end for both pac and fmj, the other WWs will match up against each other, and out of Bradley, khan, brook, maidana, Thurman, possibly porter + DA too, there's some good fights at the weight too see who's best.
     
  12. modernfonzie

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    I said RACISM, American Racism was a concept creating by white men.

    Also, to add to. Your point. The idea of blacks hating eachother and willing to take from eachother is conditioning.

    I fought a lot as a teenager. Did things to other blacks asa teenager and never stopped to think why. Blacks being pinned against other blacks, and blacks hating people who look like them has everything to do with American conditioning. I'm telling you AS someone WHOS been through it. There is no positive representation for blacks in the media. Black fear is promoted and encoded. From youth.

    As far as crime, and single mothers, that has more to do with poverty than culture. There are more poor blacks than any other race. Look at the percentages of single households of other races that are facing poverty.

    Crime, is mostly fueled by desperation, desperation comes with being poor. I don't know why I have to explain this to grown men, but I guess it's just that white privilege speaking.
     
  13. victor879

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    Racism is as old as "my tribe doesn't like the neighboring tribe." This isn't an American "white man" invention.

    As for your single mother comment: more BS. Fun fact: There is a direct correlation with the expansion of the welfare state, and the destruction of the black family unit. Why is it black families were MORE LIKELY to stay together during some of the most turbulent racial battles in our history? (60s and earlier) There is a legitimate argument that the black father was replacement by government assistance. This is a breakdown of the family unit.

    The vast majority of crimes against blacks, are committed by? Other blacks. But now it's because of white people right? Some type of "conditioning" that's been perpetuated on black communities? Get out of here with that.....

    Sorry man, I'm Hispanic, and I have NEVER been kept down because of my skin color/race. Never. Yes, I've had a gun pulled on me by some skin heads and all that. I've seen racism. But the country 'as a whole' is not racist. That's loser thinking, straight up. Anybody who thinks "I can't make it because I'm black" or "I'm at a disadvantage because I'm black" needs to check into reality and drop that loser attitude.


    The "conditioning" you speak of is the breakdown of the family unit. It NEEDS to be addressed. You can't have 70% of your children come out of single parent homes and expect your communities to be successful. Period. You can point to "who you think is responsible" and say "it's because of THIS historical event" that broke down the family unit..... Fine. But that still doesn't address RESOLVING IT TODAY! Where is the message from Black Leaders to keep families together and raise your children as a couple? I don't see it...... I saw Bill Cosby mention it, and then he got called an Uncle Tom and tarred and feathered by his own.
     
  14. modernfonzie

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    I'm not someone who thinks like That though. I never let the country win. Doesn't mean that I don't see it. It doesn't mean that it's not there.

    Yeah yeah, 84% of crimes aganst whites are committed by other whites too. When you share a community that happens, so miss me with the whole black on black crime shyt.
    Fact is
    A year from today I'll be an NYU graduate on my way to Columbia. And because I made it through, doesn't mean that racism doesn't exist or that this isn't a racist country, it just means that I accepted it, got my moral compass back and beat it.

    The racism, discrimination and oppression are very much alive in this country and I've dealt with it my whole Life.

    I don't want to explain it anymore, but because you can regurgitate some facts you read off of CNN doesn't mean you know the black experience. You haven't lived it. My grandmother is Dominican and even she's schooled me on racism. The fact that you don't think this is a racist country, worries me for,your children. Especially if you are a Hispanic of color because they will surely deal with it and if they aren't ready for it they'll be able to thank their dad for letting them know there is no racism in this country.

    Peace
     
  15. DSG496

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    it is true though that if your black, or just the wrong skin colour from the wrong neighbourhood then no matter what you'll struggle to get employed. They did an programme in UK about a white posh boy with the same work experiences and qualifications as a young black lad from a high rise block, one got offered 8 jobs, the black lad got offered nothing.
    the problem is both from outside and within communities though, Asian people in 2 generations are out earning the natives in Uk, and I'm guessing in the USA too, they weren't rich when they arrived in the 1960s/70s etc, they were discriminated against just as much as blacks.