CLASSIC FIGHT NIGHT THREAD:Wilder-Fury II

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Thanks for watching Bummy! :good

    Definitely interested in seeing whose will will become more apt to waiver, and after last year, where I wasn't overly impressed with Pac or Floyd in the 2 fights they each had, it will also be interesting to see whether either of them is capable of turning the clock back a little bit, even if only for a few short stretches here and there.
     
  2. Monogamous STD

    Monogamous STD Ya know, Quasimoto predicted all this. Full Member

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    Mayweather. Straight right to the body, KO or late mid to late round TKO after getting broken down.
     
  3. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Mayweather will likely win, but that's primarily because Pac hasn't KO'd anyone in several years now, I think that a peak Pac would have beaten a peak Floyd, but this fight might make me change my mind.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Ive been a fan of both these guys, not rooting for anyone. Just interested in seeing the tactics.

    I'll be happy for whoever wins as long as its fully deserved. Probably Mayweather.
     
  5. Thread Stealer

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    Pacquiao has some success with his workrate and unusual angles. Mayweather as usual, will adapt, and lower Pacquiao's workrate. Left jabs are often tough to land against lefties, but I've seen Pacquiao hit with some really hard jabs and I suspect Mayweather will have success with it, as well as the right cross, of course. Wouldn't be surprised if he lands the uppercut at closer quarters as well.

    Mayweather by UD, 116-112 (2x), 117-111
     
  6. Thread Stealer

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    Roach just talks a lot in general. He talks so much that he completely contradicts himself.

    He said AFTER Pacquiao beat DLH, that Oscar was really drained and could barely run. He said AFTER Pacquiao beat Hatton, that "for a world champ, Hatton was not very good".

    Then after Pacquiao destroyed both of them, he complained that "whatever Pacquiao does, you will find a reason to criticize it".

    Well yeah, Roach himself makes it easy to downgrade Pac's wins. Not simply trash talk before a fight to attempt to mess with an opponent's head, but simply talking after the fact about DLH & Hatton.

    He also was yapping about "Cotto isn't the same, Cotto won't make it 2 rounds with Pacquiao"....and then a week later said "I don't think Pacquiao stops Cotto, he'll win a wide decision".

    I take what he says with a grain of salt. I think sometimes he just trash-talks to bring attention to himself, not necessarily as an ego thing, but perhaps because his fighters won't do it. Maybe he wants to attempt to get in an opponent's head and in doing so, relieve some of the pressure off of his fighter and put on him since he's the one talking?

    But I'm sure he doesn't care for Mayweather's camp, especially with Floyd Sr's rhymes about "The Joke Coach Roach" or whatever. He's also made comments about Floyd Jr's woman-beating ways.
     
  7. prime

    prime BOX! Writing Champion Full Member

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    Much, if not all, of this, will happen! :good

    Mayweather knows what he's doing. He knows he can still peck away to a decision over a declining Pacquiao.

    Sadly, it will be downhill for Money from here on out. His skills are good, but nobody cares - he will never be recognized as anything close to the best ever, much less loved - because of that extraordinary ego. Besides, he never was the best.

    Pacquiao, on the other hand, can expect a bright future. Good for him.

    And good for boxing this week! All other sports only aspire to boxing!
     
  8. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    During the weigh in Pacquiao was beaming...smiling from ear to ear. Mayweather seemed more subdued than I've ever recalled...I don't know if that means anything...I'll stay with a Mayweather pick by decision. 8-4 in rounds.
     
  9. cuchulain

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  10. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  11. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Experts are picking Floyd to win 14-2...makes sense but experts are people too

    Ron Borges Boston Herald Mayweather by decision

    Steve Carp Las Vegas Review-Journal Mayweather by decision

    Tim Dahlberg The Associated Press Mayweather by decision

    Bill Dwyre Los Angeles Times Pacquiao by late KO

    Norm Frauenheim Ring.com Mayweather by decision

    Kevin Iole Yahoo Sports Mayweather by decision

    Josh Peter USA TODAY Sports/BoxingJunkie Mayweather by decision

    Lance Pugmire Los Angeles Times Pacquiao by decision

    Dan Rafael, ESPN.com Mayweather by decision

    Rick Reeno ***********.com Mayweather by decision

    Martin Rogers USA TODAY Sports/BoxingJunkie Mayweather by decision

    Mike Rosenthal Ring Magazine Mayweather by Decision

    Jon Saraceno BoxingJunkie/ABC-TV/KTNV Las Vegas Mayweather by decision

    Luke Thomas SB Nation Mayweather by decision

    Bob Velin USA TODAY Sports/BoxingJunkie Mayweather by decision

    Michael Woods The Sweet Science Mayweather by decision



    Most of the media surveyed this week like WBC/WBA welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather to outpoint WBO champion Manny Pacquiao in Saturday’s mega-fight at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas:

    Ron Borges Boston Herald Mayweather by decision

    Steve Carp Las Vegas Review-Journal Mayweather by decision

    Tim Dahlberg The Associated Press Mayweather by decision

    Bill Dwyre Los Angeles Times Pacquiao by late KO

    Norm Frauenheim Ring.com Mayweather by decision

    Kevin Iole Yahoo Sports Mayweather by decision

    Josh Peter USA TODAY Sports/BoxingJunkie Mayweather by decision

    Lance Pugmire Los Angeles Times Pacquiao by decision

    Dan Rafael, ESPN.com Mayweather by decision

    Rick Reeno ***********.com Mayweather by decision

    Martin Rogers USA TODAY Sports/BoxingJunkie Mayweather by decision

    Mike Rosenthal Ring Magazine Mayweather by Decision

    Jon Saraceno BoxingJunkie/ABC-TV/KTNV Las Vegas Mayweather by decision

    Luke Thomas SB Nation Mayweather by decision

    Bob Velin USA TODAY Sports/BoxingJunkie Mayweather by decision

    Michael Woods The Sweet Science Mayweather by decision
     
  12. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Manny has had many more wars and at his age has more wear and tear but does he have a few more good fights left or even one? Floyd has few wars but has he ever faced a fighter with Manny's ability when in top form and condition....be nice if we could go back a few years, lets see if great condition can bring back some magic
     
  13. JudgeDredd

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    What's surprised me so far is that Manny appears to have done a psyche job on Floyd by just being himself. Smiling all the time, acting like a kid at Christmas. Floyd appears uptight, which is understandable given the magnitude of the event & him having so much more to lose. Will this affect Floyd in the ring is what I'm wondering. It worked a treat on Tyson when Holyfield did it.
     
  14. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Mayweather is unapologetic about his 7 domestic violence convictions against 5 woman. What a brave man.

    I hope it is a long & clean defeat for him.