Floyd won fair and square. But SRL > FMW

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  1. Ayatollah

    Ayatollah ESB's Godliest poster Full Member

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    I don't think FMW can compare to SRL and the likes.

    Being a defensive genius doesn't make you an ATG.
    Fighting cherry picks doesn't make you an ATG
    Fighting people after 6 years later doesn't make you an ATG
    Running doesn't make you an ATG

    I am not sure who in their right mind would think FMW is > SRL, Ali, Frasier, Tyson, Holly, Hagler, SRR

    He can't even hold their jokes tbh.

    To the Manny fight, he beat manny. i was rooting for Manny, but, Floyd won in a borefest style.

    I had it 8-4 Floyd.:bbb
    Many was a sore loser at the interview. :fire
     
  2. masterold

    masterold Active Member Full Member

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    ^

    Floyd is not greater than Leonard or Robinson or Ali. I think an argument can be made that he's greater than the there however.

    FYI - Willie Pep and Pernell Whitaker are also defensive geniuses and are ATG's.

    ATG's do not lose to the likes of Buster Douglas in their prime like Mike Tyson did.

    Finally I think the word you were looking for is "jocks" not "jokes". If English is not your first language then don't worry about this oversight 👍🏾.
     
  3. Ayatollah

    Ayatollah ESB's Godliest poster Full Member

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    Yes, thank you, i meant Jocks.
    :good
     
  4. The Predator

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    No Floyd is no way near Ali, Leonard or Robinson. He is good, but not THAT good.
     
  5. TheExpertboxer

    TheExpertboxer Active Member Full Member

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    Didn't ali, Robinson, and Leonard all "Run"
     
  6. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Leonard and Prime Floyd would have been a great fight, I think even after 6, Floyd starts to get ahead 7,8,9 then Leonard pours on the pressure and forces the stoppage.
     
  7. jesse

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    The average moron would tell you Ali is the greatest (which isn't wrong), yet they don't understand that he "ran" 1000x more than Mayweather and held onto his opponents neck for dear life throughout fights. Tyson isn't nearly as great as Floyd Mayweather. He was a flash in the pan compared to Floyd and lost when he fought great HWs. He had a good little run but I'm being honest here.
     
  8. jesse

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    Sugar Ray Leonard "ran" far more than Mayweather does as well. People don't know jack **** about boxing.
     
  9. Thread Stealer

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    Leonard only "ran" in select fights, Duran 2-3, Hagler, parts of the Howard fight.

    He was first and foremost a relaxed, flat-footed boxer who circled a lot, and was fairly aggressive and offensive. He was one of the best finishers ever
     
  10. The Predator

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    Ali did not run he moved all the time to find angles and openings and that also made him harder to hit, running is someone who runs away scare of getting in fire. I don“t think anyone here can say that about Ali
     
  11. Thread Stealer

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    Leonard wins comprehensively at WW.

    If they were naturally the same weight, it'd be a closer fight.

    The Leonard of 79-82 was really something
     
  12. bluebird

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    Don't think it would be easy.
     
  13. fruitpunch

    fruitpunch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah I agree
     
  14. Tencount85

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    Leonard has hearns, hagler, duran, benitez on his resume. Floyd has a faded as **** Pacquiao. Jr isn't even worthy to carry Leonard's spit bucket. Leonard pummeled Mayweather Sr and would beat Jr. as well were it ever to down.
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

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    Not easy but the outcome would be something like 8-4 SRL. I think there's a huge punching power difference between the two and that would be very apparent if somehow a mythical fight could happen.