CLASSIC FIGHT NIGHT THREAD:Wilder-Fury II

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  1. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    I'd find any mayweather achievements at 160 in single fight terms irrelevant unless it's Golovkin.

    Him beating Cotto again and retiring as middle champ would just further highlight how watered down and easy multi weight accomplishments have become over the decades.Smoke and Mirrors.
     
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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Paulie hangs off Mayweathers nutsack. His biased opinion can't be taken seriously.
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Right, but someone like yourself needs to be taken at his word?

    No offence, but about half of your posts here are absolutely lunatic.
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Beating Cotto would just be him beating a weak MW champ. Which is pretty much what nearly happened when Armstrong nearly beat Garcia. I don't think painting it as unreasonable because there is a better fighter in the division is reasonable. There's often a better fighter in the division.
     
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  5. Unforgiven

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    :lol:

    (the other half are incomprehensible ?)
     
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  6. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is true that Mayweather asked for Olympic-level drug testing -- but in a sport that isn't regulated by a central body like other sports are, he is entitled to ask that of an opponent, just as it is the right of that opponent to refuse.

    I don't see it as an unreasonable request, nor malicious in intent. How could he know that Pacquiao was so adverse to give blood? No-one did. It was a huge coincidence.

    Evander Holyfield, Shane Mosley, Vargas and Margarito have been caught cheating -- and Pacquaio's rise through the weightclasses certainly captures the imagination. Even with PED's it is an achievement. Floyd Mayweather sr was vocal very early about his suspicion of Pac being on PED's.

    Blood-doping like EPO really does give an enormous advantage. The increase in stamina is enormous.

    Conclusion: I don't think Mayweather asking for PED testing = wanting to sabotage the match. I think that's outrageous.
     
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  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Magic man just isn't an objective source.

    Floyd didn't like the look of that guy who was running through Cotto - as was the way he described him.


    Nobody will ever know for sure
     
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  8. Unforgiven

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    But I agree with what dino says about Paulie, Floyd and nutsacks !
     
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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    tbf, when he's not talking abotu heavyweights (which is about half the time) his posts are sometimes ok.
     
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  10. Unforgiven

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    And yet he did sabotage the match, and seemed rather satisfied about that.

    Let's assume Pacquiao was on PEDs in 2009 then.
    Mayweather didn't want to fight him, right ?
     
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  11. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, dino's good. :good
    A cunning Wlad fan, I suspect.
     
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  12. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i enjoyed it.
     
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  13. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, I agree with that. Don't think it would really add anything. We already know he beats Cotto - another clear victory would put it a bit further beyond doubt, that's all.

    Beating Golovkin - which I don't think is unfeasible - would be a fantastic achievement for someone who peaked at 130, though.
     
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  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    He's a control freak. The negotiations for this fight proved that. There was no way he was going to make the fight without that drug testing once Manny said "no" whatever the reason.

    Was he scared to fight Pacquiao? Maybe, but I personally doubt that. He's an elite plus athlete. But there's now way to know and his conduct certainly wasn't satisfying. But I would, personally, have to reject any certitude.
     
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  15. Unforgiven

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    Fair enough.
     
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