Manny has Loss to Mayweather, Morales, Marquez, Bradley

He has wins next to 3 of those 4 names, and people will look back at the timing and then the circumstances of the Mayweather ''loss'', so nothing doing.

 

LOL Code Red is butthurt that Pacquiao who has losses and just lost still have millions if not billion of fans still behind him.

 

His loss to Bradley is a farce. We all know that.
And he avenged that too with a masterclass performance

He also KO'd Morales 2x.
It's not like SRL's "no mas" win over Duran was forever tainted by his loss to him beforehand.

He also had 4 awesome fights against Marquez, each as exciting as the last.
Can't really say anything against that.

He is still the 2nd best of this generation hands down.
And his achievements in the sport (4 lineal titles in different divisions, 7 legit different titles in different divisions, 1 paper 150lb title)

 

Styles, deterioration in his physical assets which are essential for his offensive style.
People place too much emphasis on being undefeated now, Pac was and should be respected for putting it all on the line, his KO loss to JMM was because he went for the jugular, that is what makes him such a superstar he fights without fear and his style should have caused him to have many more losses than he does especially when you see the boxers he has faced.
JMM is a great boxer, everyone has a nemesis, had this Floyd Pac fight happened years ago we may witness another 3 more rematches, Pac is an active fighter who never shuns a challenge even if it's awkward for him.

 

He also has victories against three... Duran, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns lost to one another... it's also how you lose and what you give in the ring.

 

Don't forget when Singsurat made him go cross eyed and when the ATG Torrecampo knocked him out too.

 

Pacquiao would not need 2 fights with Maidana nor struggled with Hatton and blitzed Cotto, styles.

Pacquiao didn't lose to Bradley you know this, the fans know this. Mayweather lost to Castillo in 75% of fans eyes, he avenged the loss.

 

Tbh, I still have that belief, a rematch would still cause debate and we saw enough that Pac could definitely beat him, maybe even KO him, there is the shoulder factor too.

The greatest belief was 5 years ago, I always thought as time passed and Pac did start slowing down then Mayweathers physical advantage would be too much, his reahc advantage is incredible and I even feared he could KO Pac now after that shot from JMM, but this fight actually restored more belief in me than I had going into it.

 

he's elevated status was in many ways based on belief that he could beat Mayweather. hahahahaha wtf? :rofl
he lost yesterday, but why does he still have this elevated status that you speak of? and when you look at it, he may have lost but it seems that he have more fans now than ever before.

 

I have and always will say Mayweather is a better counter punchers than Jmm, JMM ko'd Pac through timing and Pac being wreckless, anyone in the world would then say Mayweather even though not being a big punchers could possibly time Pac that way, everyone expected Pac to be wreckless in this fight, he actually fought very smartly, if he had been timed and KO'd no-one would have a debate about this, a lot of people thought he did enough, he thought he did enough. It's as Mosely said you are landing on a guy who is running, his shots aren't hurting you at all and at the end of the 12 rounds you feel you pushed the fight, landed the harder shots and felt unscathed what more can you do.