"After the fourth round, I only pursued to land one KO punch."

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by abuffy, May 3, 2015.


  1. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only Im not a part of his fanbase. It's not only for him to do better. It's for him to also say he straight up lost instead of making excuses. He robbed boxing fans yesterday. Both he and Roach robbed us.
     
  2. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For Mayweather fans, I could see them not wanting it. But, if Mayweather went out and looked as horrible as Manny did, you better know I'd want a rematch and other Mayweather fans! This generation, this era deserves a fight because it could have been better.
     
  3. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Damn man, serious discussions are taking place in here. Stop being a loser for a second.
     
  4. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow...I really never thought of it this way. Thinking about it now, it really is touching to see this between to fighters that, not to long ago, talked for the first time. My respect for both these guys has just gone up and am getting a little choked up just typing this. :good
     
  5. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A rematch also would be better for everyone anyways because it allows more time for promotion and most importantly for the fighters' preparation. This fight felt very rushed, and now they can do things comfortably.

    It could ultimately make a better fight for both fighters because I didn't think Mayweather looked as good as he could have looked either. I thought they both could have been a lot better.
     
  6. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty much this. Once I got over rubbing it in Pacquiao's fans mouths, and making them eat their words. It's as clear as day that they need a rematch. Not that I would blame Floyd for not giving him one. I'd understand that, because he won handily and has nothing left to prove in my mind.

    but with legacy in mind, it makes sense.
    For Floyd it makes sense because he can dictate terms now with even more leverage on his side.
    Financially it makes sense because these are still the two biggest fanbases in the sport, and there are casuals who

    A) believe he was injured
    B) think Mayweather ran
    C) actually believe that Pac won.

    So a rematch makes since. It wouldn't be as big as the first fight, but would still sell and potentially be a better fight.

    There's potentially another 100 mil on the table with Floyd. The fight won't generate what the first did but with a bigger share he could still see that money.

    And May fans+ Pactaards is gonna be good for at least another 2 million buys assuming they can sell him being injure correctly.
     
  7. reanthefox

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    the list of excuses starts now as soon as vada will be mentioned.

    without vada rematch will never gain traction.

    fans will look at it as a farce, with pac going to get his blood drained again non-stop and floyd getting juiced to the gills with memo laughing all the way to the bank.

    it would stupid for pac not to demand the bigger share for a potential lost of income.
     
  8. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A rematch with Pacquiao would still bring him more revenue than any other fighter, because there's no one else out there that could. If you think about it, the entire world believed it was Pacquiao. There is no other fighter Floyd can present to the world and sell because they all believed Pacquiao was the one.

    With that said, Pacquiao is still the best option financially. It would be so easy to sell the "injury" narrative too because, heck, they've already started it. So, for Mayweather, it's low risk, high reward rather than these other fighter's could be higher risk, lower reward. And for Mayweather making his decisions, money isn't everything, it's the only thing.
     
  9. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The amount of fans that would look at is as a farce is a minority. So, it wouldn't make a difference. It'll be USADA.

    For the record, Pacquiao said Mayweather didn't have strong power and couldn't hurt him; therefore, it doesn't seem like the "steroids" made a difference.
     
  10. reanthefox

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    only when people look at it that pac will get a fair shake.

    vada or bigger share for pac.

    without vada would be lucky to crack 1m. floyd's purse alone will gobble all the ppv rev.

    would be stupid for pac not demand a bigger share or an increase in purse for a potential lost of income.

    70 -30 share for pac is fair without vada.
     
  11. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have an article you could write. I'm not sure that Im up to it, but it's a great topic.
     
  12. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What is it?
     
  13. Beast-Mode

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    Ain't no rematch happening IMO.

    1. The casuals are not gonna pony up anymore money to see these 2 in the ring again.
    2. Floyd will ask for a huge cut of the profits and Arum won't go for it. Still plenty of cheap money to be made fighting in China/Dubai.
    3. The networks are done working together. Multiple boxing writers have been saying so for the past month.
    4. Floyd won clearly. He's not accustomed to doing pointless rematches. And I don't think the money would be there to push him to do it.
     
  14. thabanga510

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    You dont get rematches because you looked bad. You get rematches when you fight hard a make a fight competitive. This fight was one sided.
     
  15. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Freddie mentioned their gameplan was to rough up Mayweather when he was on the ropes, which actually is one of his few glaring weaknesses and when he's is at his most vulnerable. While at times he like to bait guys into fighting him while he's on the ropes, it sometimes backfires against him with strong inside fighters such as Maidana or Castillo.

    In the case of Manny though, he's never been a good inside fighter and he just doesn't operate that often with guys pressed on the ropes. His aggression loves to play out in and around the center of the ring with him darting in and out of the pocket.

    Anyway, his gameplan didn't work and he never really made any serious adjustments. You could tell he was concerned about getting countered a lot in there; at times he'd back off almost to reset himself because of the potential fear of getting countered flush. Probably the most surprising thing in the entire fight was how quick FLoyd was in comparison to manny, especially with his footwork. It was kind of shocking to see it.

    He's an ATG, but he just took on one of the worst possible styles.