Appreciation for Mayweather

I love manny he's dynamic, explosive and gritty as any fighter to grace the squared circle, that said Floyd is clearly a class above and when I hear folks using the excuse that he ran all night it makes me cringe because even if you truly feel Floyd didn't engage enough the numbers tell you he threw more and landed significantly more while simultaneously making manny miss at a higher percentage than Floyd's average opponent. Mannys failure to understand the art of cutting off the ring was in full blast last night. Is manny still a legend hell yes just a notch below Floyd.

 

Brawl vs Brains

 

I don't know. He proved he can land a few more jabs and/or grazing right hands over the course of a few more rounds.

I think the best way to assess their greatness is to look at their relative performances against common opponents. And doing that I think you'll find Manny's resume superior. It's one thing to win a decision consistently (I touched you more than you touched me) aka Floyd, but it's quite another to beat a man into submission consistently (where he goes into survival mode or he's rendered unconscious) aka Manny. The latter, to my mind, is far more impressive.

 

It takes brains to stop a man. You might have to take one to give one, sure, but it's repeatedly putting yourself in a position to give better ones than you're getting. Floyd never demonstrated the ability to do this, at least not consistently. Great defensive fighter, yes, but far too cautious (whether incapable of more effective aggression or just too afraid to try, I don't know) to be among the elite all time.

 

id put him in the top 10 had he beat pac with vada.

id put him better than ali had he beat a prime pac with no blood draining bull****.

id put him closer to pac, though pac is still above, had he showed usada testing him.


floyd actuall regressed in my book after a tainted victory.

a drained of blood pac vs. a juiced bigger stronger faster guy, pac 8-4ed him and made floyd ran like a *****.

floyd to me is prolly borderline outside of atg list now.

pac is now cracking top 10, maybe top 5, after all the odds against him.

pac fought 1, 2 weightclasses out of his normal weight and still won and made floyd ran like a *****.

 

Hate him or love him..u gotta admitt that Folyd Mayweather has a style that few in the history of the game ever had..Now..u can hate that style due to your preference..perfectly OK to feel that way..some ATGs like Sweet Pea etc suffered the same because of their style of fighting..considered to be boring.

However..in real terms Mayweather is a pure boxer-counter puncher..his style has never been solved..as of yet..and for that we have to give him his due..he is an ATG for sure..IMHO probably Top 25-ish.If the P4P staus was based purely on boxing skills alone,he'd be Top 5 for sure IMHO..we may not like it..but he is that good.

Manny Pacquiao..the most exciting fighter of the last 15yrs if u ask me..was never the consumate boxer..but was a guy who combined raw punching power with speed..and a big set of *****..a southpaw to boot..tore through the divisions like wild fire..taking us on an incredible journey..the like of which we may never see again in this life time..a true blue physically gifted slugger.

Now..if the P4P was based purely on accomplishments..Manny would be two-tiers above Mayweather..most probably Top-15ish..He has simply accomplished more IMHO..Mayweather's undefeated record did not come with the same..or close resume that Manny put together in the last ten years.

But on skills alone..Mayweather cannot be disputed as a to tier ATG.

I hate the sucka..I was always a boxer-puncher type fan me..thelikes of SRR,SRL,Tommy Hearns etc..but I gotta Floyd Mayweather his due.

 

Mayweather and Pacquiao are two greats and full credit to both

 

Floyd Joy Sinclair has q glass jaw and a glass heart.

 

Floyd ain't in the league of hearns, leonard, duran.

 

He made a great fighter look ordinary.

 

This.