Where Does Mayweather Rank on your ATG List?

He's a great fighter.
I doubt he'd make my top 50.

 

I don't think Mayweather definitively lost Castillo I but I have scored it for Castillo before. I don't think it was daylight robbery.


Now, it's really hard for me to place Floyd. I'd need to read books and truly study the entire history of boxing. All I'm gonna say is; he's the best of his era. If we assume that the talent pool across eras has remained quite constant — though differently distributed between the divisions; sometimes a strong heavyweight era, sometimes a strong welterweight era, etc — then if a boxer is the best of his era, then he's got to be quite high up there.

Where exactly? The much better posters than myself here can give you some real answers, but I can't place Floyd precisely. I can say that he's the best since Whitaker.. or the greatest since Whitaker.

Peak Roy Jones is probably more unbeatable than peak Floyd but Floyd is almost undoubtedly greater.

 

He's easily top 50 and then some.

 

Way up there. Mayweather isn't the type of guy I root for, but his skills are undeniable. He's not only fast, he's got the best defense in the center of the ring in the history of the welter weight division. Opponents only land 17% on him, even when he's slightly past his prime. Amazing. His footwork and speed is excellent.

On defense Mayweather is every bit as good as Willie Pep or Pernell Whitaker who should rate as ATG's at light weight and feather weight.

His punching accuracy is on the money, and he hits hard enough with the counter right to deter most.

Unlike Roy Jones, Mayweather can take a punch to the head or body.

Yes--He can get caught in the ropes or on the corner. His ability to cover up, and quickly escape is very impressive.

Mayweather has beaten several hall of fame fighters. If he wants to be 50-0, he can get there. His resume among those who retired undefeated is likely #1.

 

^^^

How would have May's defence fared against SRL and Hearns at 147? They enter the ring at about 147.. none of the modern day bull with "welterweights" weighing 155+.

 

I only rate Sugar Ray Leonard above him.

 

My guess is quite well. But I wouldn't favor him to beat those guys given that Mayweather wasn't prime at 147.

 

Not for me.
Okay, I admit I haven't got a top 50 set in stone, but I can easily reel off 30 or 40 who I've seen who were greater. So probably not top 50, or maybe just slips in, I dunno.

That doesn't detract from his greatness though. Top 50 requires ridiculous levels of quality and achievements.

 

Top 15 or something

No order

Greb
Robinson
Gans
B. Leonard
Armstrong
Langford
Ray Leonard
Ali
Louis
Archie Moore
Roy Jones
R. Duran
Ezzard Charles
Eder Jofre
JC Chavez
Hagler
Mayweather
W. Gomez
Pep
Whitaker

 

You're entitled to your opinion and I won't disrespect it. But I highly doubt that there are very many honest or knowledgeable people who would reel off the names of " 30 or 40" fighters who they feel are better than Floyd Mayweather. I might be able to list a few - Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Ezzard Charles, maybe Sandy Sadler? Beyond that it gets dicey. He had an amazing amateur career and won his first belt with 17 pro fights against a solid champion. He has since championed in five weight classes and has claim to 25 world title fight wins. He's beaten several hall of famers, a number of title holders, countless ranked men and has reached the mark of 48-0. He's been ranked top 10 p4p for about 15 years and #1 p4p for perhaps 6 years give or take... At 38 years of age he's still the best in the world at a point in life when most greats were finished.

 

Well, this forum came up with this a couple of years ago :

[url]http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=459918[/url]

He's at #47.

It's not my list, and I disagree with a lot of it. But I respect the knowledge of the people who contributed to it.

So Robinson, Armstrong, Charles and Saddler are your top 4, and you struggle beyond that to name someone else above Floyd?
I don't think many would agree with that.

 

Oh we can slice it and dice it any way we want.. I'm sure there are people who rank Camacho above Floyd as preposterous as that would be... You could legitimately ad Greb, Langford and a few others, but I don't think its clear cut.. But listing FORTY or more fighters who should rank above Floyd Mayweather Jr., is insane to say the least.

 

So, McGrain's list thread is insane ?
Some of the better postors of this forum put their heads together, along with McGrain, who is pretty sensible, and came up with that list, and you think it's "insane" ?

You're saying Greb and Langford are NOT clear cut above Floyd ?

I think you're the one who is more out of step with the consensus, compare your statements to my statement.

I do respect your opinion, but you must know it's a minority one around here, for sure.

 

Thanks. But rating a fighter who's career is still in progress is a touchy thing for some people. It also doesn't help when said fighter has an image that don't sit well with fans. Give it 20 years, and it'll be like pouring miracle grow on tomatoes.