Roy Jones: How Good Was He?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by VG_Addict, May 4, 2015.

  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2006
    Messages:
    404,288
    Likes Received:
    86,376
    :lol:

    Those built-in signatures annoy me.

    Not that manufacturers pre-load them, but that users just kind of shrug and say "yeah okay, I'll let every message I ever send contain that instead of taking a moment to change settings" :!:
     
  2. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2015
    Messages:
    13,815
    Likes Received:
    1,908
    Maybe they think if it can become their signature sign-off. Like Rumsfeld's...

    :smoke
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2006
    Messages:
    404,288
    Likes Received:
    86,376
    My baby mama has it on her work emails, "sent from my iPhone". Every time.

    It just seems unprofessional to me. Like, a lot of people reading your emails are in their 60's and 70's and they probably don't appreciate you rubbing in their face how young and hip and keyed into new tech (which they'll never understand before they die) you are.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2012
    Messages:
    42,129
    Likes Received:
    11,522
    Roy also beat Tarver fair and square.

    Who's said that Tarver II had anything to do with the weight?

    Tarver deserves a lot of credit for his rematch win. He caught him with a great shot. But you can't alter the fact that Roy was 35, and had fought 50 times. His reflexes had slowed a little, with even Buddy McGirt (who trained Tarver) commenting that he thought Roy was on the slide.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2012
    Messages:
    42,129
    Likes Received:
    11,522
    :deal

    A joke of a HW would not have been able to have beaten Evander.

    These guys talk as though Ruiz was domestic level.
     
  6. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2015
    Messages:
    13,815
    Likes Received:
    1,908
    :lol:

    At least the "sent from my iPhone" isn't as in your face as some of these... "sent from my Toshiba DKT-2020S Smartphone with build in hands-free and voice recognition technology. Now available for the low, low price of $299.99 at a BestBuy location near you"
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2006
    Messages:
    404,288
    Likes Received:
    86,376
    True. :yep Nobody likes a walking billboard.
     
  8. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    23,755
    Likes Received:
    3,948
    What about the bums he fought at LHW? Julio Cesar Gonzalez? David Telesco? Derrick Harmon? Clinton Woods?
     
  9. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2007
    Messages:
    54,515
    Likes Received:
    121
    Didnt Juio Cesar Honzalez beat Darius after losing to Jones and became lineal LHW champ wow what a bum
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2006
    Messages:
    404,288
    Likes Received:
    86,376
    Eh - wouldn't call them bums.
     
  11. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    23,755
    Likes Received:
    3,948
    OK, sure, they were top 10 contenders. But who was their best wins before fighting Roy?
     
  12. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2008
    Messages:
    45,769
    Likes Received:
    4,379
  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2008
    Messages:
    45,769
    Likes Received:
    4,379

    And another one by Steve Kim on ESPN. Same topic just more detailed. Keep in mind I am no fan of Steve Kim (or his idiot buddy Dougie Fischer) but this is very interesting from that time period.

    http://a.espncdn.com/boxing/a/2002/0904/1427223.html
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2012
    Messages:
    42,129
    Likes Received:
    11,522
    Look at who both guys fought, and allow for all circumstances.

    How does Hopkins have a better resume?

    The only advantage he holds over Roy, is his great longevity that deserves an enormous amount of respect.

    But he hasn't achieved as much, he wasn't as dominant as Roy was in his prime, and Roy started out at JMW.

    Also, Bernard shrunk himself down to MW, when he could have fought better fights at SMW, and at LHW earlier than he did. His MW run was poor as a whole, with only a few very good-great wins. Not also forgetting, that it would never have happened had Roy not moved out of the division. Bernard has also admitted that he could have gone to LHW much earlier than he did. He only went up to LHW when Roy was finished at the top level, and Tarver had dropped an awful lot of weight after the Rocky movie. He hired Mackie Shilstone to prepare him for Tarver, and Mackie said that they expected Tarver to be flat after the weight loss.

    With regards to their first fight in 93, Bernard was 28, and Roy was only 24 with a fractured hand. So it was a very good win.
     
  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2012
    Messages:
    42,129
    Likes Received:
    11,522
    Roy was on another level.