The official Mayweather vs. Pacquiao aftermath trash receptacle

PAC has always been a sore loser

 

By the same token you are giving way too much credit for punches that didn't land from manny. Unfortunately you do not get to make up the scoring criteria for boxing, the 'soft' jabs floyd landed count whether you like it or not, the hard shots that landed on arms and gloves in mannys flurries do not.

 

I have watched the fight together with 3 friends, all of us boxing experts, and all of us scoring the fight round by round. We're neither US citizens or Filipinos, and neither fans of Pacquiao or Floyd either. 3 of us (including me) had Pacquiao winning it by the slightest of margins (1 single point, with 1 round even), and one had Mayweather ahead by 1 round. It was certainly a difficult fight to score because there were many close rounds, I guess this is a fight that could have gone either way, depending on how you score fights. The official scorecards were ridiculous - the only explanation for these cards can be that all the close rounds were automatically scored for Mayweather. Still, 118-110 seems biased.

But I can see very well why a lot of people scored it for Mayweather. This was clearly a 'Mayweather' fight, and not a Pacquiao type of fight. Mayweather imposed his style of fighting, he was in total control for large stretches of the fight and he kept it in the middle of the ring for the most part. There is, however, one important factor that takes away a lot from his performance: he totally neglected his offense. His defense was as effective as it possibly could be (it wasn't brilliant though, a lot of his defense consisted of holding and running, but it was undeniably effective), but where was the offense? I have never seen such a low punch output from Mayweather. You could clearly see that he was hesitant to throw, he was nervous (that's also why he wasn't as accurate as he used to when throwing), and, in lack of a better word, he was 'scared'. He was afraid to get countered by Pacquiao, whose handspeed matched his own. And at the same time, Mayweather didn't counter himself, like he usually does - the few punches he landed clearly were nearly all jabs and right hand leads. Boxing is about 'hit without getting hit', and Mayweather neglected the first in favour of the latter. How can you win rounds without throwing punches? An argument can be made that Mayweather won the fight based on his ring generalship though. On a side-note, Floyds legs looked fine and he definitely had the edge when it comes to foot-speed (especially when moving away from Pac).

Pacquiaos performance was very disappointing. Be it because of a shoulder injury or because he simply has slipped too much these last years, this was only a shadow of the Pacquaio of 5 years ago... he was never able to take control of the fight, he only had moments. You could clearly see that he tried, but his efforts were nullified by Mayweather (unfortunately too often by holding). At the end of the day however, Pacquiao didn't get hit much, simply because Mayweather didn't throw punches. And that is an important point. None of the two landed many clean shots, but I thought that Pacquiao still outworked and outhustled Mayweather in some rounds. Pacquiaos aggression wasn't effective, but when you've got two fighters who don't land punches, for whatever reason, the round should be scored in favour of the fighter who 'did more work', meaning who threw more. And in many rounds, that fighter was Pacquiao. Of course Pacquiao should still have done more, but maybe he did just enough to deserve the nod, or a draw.

I feel that, even though he officially won, Mayweather gave this fight away in a sense. I believe he showed that he is the better fighter, at any rate he is the much fresher fighter, and he could have won this in a dominant fashion - if he only wanted to. As it stands, he showed Pacquiao way too much respect and solely concentrated on his defense, bordering on going into survival mode at times. And there lies an argument why Pacquiao might have deserved the nod by a tiny little bit, despite an overall poor performance.

 

it's still frustrating to see a fighter outscore someone by running and landing soft jabs, many of which seem to mostly touch gloves. It's boxing and i don't make the rules but it's very frustrating.

like i've said, Floyd has perfected the art of winning inactive rounds where barely anything happens. He knows that all he has to do is run, move well, land a couple of soft jabs and maybe one semi-clean right and round is his. It's no wonder many that fight him say 'he did nothing' and 'i won' as Maidana said after first fight too. Judges though, seem to also award him points for making his opponents miss but i don't think he should get any points for that. I bet you that in a round where neither opponent lands 1 punch, Floyd gets it, 90% of the time.. why? caue he looks better moving whilst opponents looks frustrated.

 

Yeah no.

At least 15!

 

NO, you have got it **** about face. Mayweather is the notoriously slow starter. Paci - OW always starts faster. This time Mayweather started faster, and simply didn't ALLOW Paci - OW to get going.

 

It frustrates me too but if he's winning by following the scoring criteria there's not much that can be done about it, other than the opponent forcing floyd to fight fire with fire, maidana did a great job of it and pushed floyd to the brink, I really enjoyed that fight.

Manny has what it takes to do what maidana did, but he just didn't try it. He made the same mistake that canelo did and tried to be cautious and box floyd, they should have gone for broke and just unloaded non stop, it's the only way to beat floyd IMO.

 

1. I NEVER take self appointed " experts " at face value, so we would need to an alyse you and your friends credentials.

2. A simple guid line. If Mayweather throws 10 punches per round and lands 4 of them, and Pac throws 20 punches per round but only lands 2 of them, Mayweather wins.

3. I suggest you go to your nearest optician A.S.A.P.

 

The Cobra knows his boxing. :deal

 

I stopped reading after you said "it was a close fight" :blood

 

:rofl:rofl

This is gold.

 

well since pacquiao is the only exciting boxer in the ring on the night

maybe they have the point

people dont buy these PPV for a insominac aid

 

hes thinking of his own fighter with ward

 

:rofl:rofl:roflatschatsch

Pac is the one who needs this rematch and he's already been beat.

You're saying he should get more despite the fact that he's lost, his ppv #'s have dipped and he's an excuse riddled classless guy now? :-(

 

He certainly does. For example he knows he beat Dirrell and that Ward recently ducked him like a pu$$y :deal