Anyone Think Tiger Jack Fox Should Have FoughtLouis For Title?

Joe Louis did fight Tiger Jack Fox in a 4 round exhibition match.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?...AIBAJ&sjid=iPUDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7360,2399713&hl=en

The fight was expected to attract the largest crowd in Spokane history, over 10,000.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?...AIBAJ&sjid=kXcDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4824,5515108&hl=en

Ultimately though, it seems that the crowd disappointed a little, with only just over 7000 people attending to watch Louis, who strangely must have sparred both tiger jack fox and bill peterson on the one night.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?...AIBAJ&sjid=4f8DAAAAIBAJ&pg=4200,5179845&hl=en

It does seem from another news report i read that Louis went four rounds total 2 against each. It say in the headline that louis Easy, which tends to suggest that he outclassed Fox, but it was only an exhibition of course. Still, Nino Valdes and Elmer Ray are two guys who can testify to the power of Joe Louis in exhibitions.

Fox was definitely thought highly of. At one stage they considered him the policeman for Joe Louis!

https://news.google.com/newspapers?...AIBAJ&sjid=G_UDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7263,6428845&hl=en

 

Tiger Fox was an excellent fighter. I believe Walcott called him the best fighter he ever faced. That being said he really was not a hwt and for that reason alone was not deserving of a title shot.

 

There are quite a few black fighters that were better than some of the white fighters Louis gave title shots too. It's a fact.

Fox won 139 fights, 83 of which came by KO. He is in the hall of fame. Any hall of fame member is worthy of a title shot in my opinion.

From 1938-1944 ( Joe Louis championship years ), Fox fought 45 times, losing just four times with 1 TKO loss.

He's worthy for sure.

Why did Louis avoid him? He was black but there could be other reasons why he never fought Joe Louis. Fox fought out of a crouch. This is noteworthy since fighters who fought out of a crouch gave Louis some trouble. In addition he had the type of defense that made guys miss.

Would Louis have adjusted quickly? We'll never know.

Now McVey, with the data presented do you think he should have gotten a title shot? I have a hunch you might say yes. Time will tell.

 

Fox was a great fighter but Louis also wanted to give the legend a good payday...Fox was well liked

sorry for some reason I was thinking of John Henry Lewis and confused the 2

 

Fox had a 75" reach, and was about 2 inches shorter than Louis, who had a 76" reach.

Fox was the heavyweight champion from the state of Indiana, and a black heavyweight champion. Maybe these belts didn't have a lot of prestige at the time, yet he did win them. Fox was a heavyweight for sure.

Louis fought many title opponents under 200 pounds.

 

I read he was quite a showman as well, and successfully used "the crab " like defense which Paulino Uzcudun also used. I'd love to see it!

Is there any film on Fox? Maybe Klompton knows.

 

False. Fox had 3 fights in 1941, and 5 fights in 1944. Fox with out a doubt had more fights than were recorded.

I was showing how good Fox was from 1938-1944, while Louis was champion. We all know when Louis won the title.

1938 would have been a fine year for a title shot for Fox.

You did not answer my question. Do you think Fox should have gotten a title shot from Louis or not?

 

Six of Fox's nine losses happened from 1945-1950 when he was on the slide.

Louis did not fight in 1945, and only had 4 more title defenses, then he lost to Charles.

Okay, I get it. You don't think a hall of fame fighter with a long and distinguished career was worthy. The board can speak, and has. We'll see who agrees with your opinion.

If you think Fox wasn't better than Harry Thomas ( 1938 title shot ) or Jack Roper ( 1939 ) title shot or Al McCoy ( 1941 title shot ) , I say your 100% wrong, or too stubborn to admit you are wrong.

 

Six of Fox's nine losses happened from 1945-1950 when he was on the slide.

Louis did not fight in 1945, and only had 4 more title defenses, then he lost to Charles.

Okay, I get it. You don't think a hall of fame fighter with a long and distinguished career was worthy. The board can speak, and has. We'll see who agrees with your opinion.

If you think Fox wasn't better than Harry Thomas ( 1938 title shot ) or Jack Roper ( 1939 ) title shot or Al McCoy ( 1941 title shot ) , I say your 100% wrong, or too stubborn to admit you are wrong.

Joe Walcott was a great fighter. Fox beat him.

This is a Fox thread, not a Haynes or Gains thread.

I disagree, to make the hall of fame you have to be one of the best in your time. There are various degrees of greatness.

Now, don't you think Fox was a better choice than Thomas, Roper or McCoy? A yes or no will do.

Bottom line: Louis only fought two black men in title fights. There were plenty of black contenders worthy of a title shot. They were not selected. If you think all the white opponents were better, you can say so here.