Floyd: Pacquiao was better than I expected.

Typhoon i m actually more of a pacman fan than mayweather fan.

Floyds made a career out of stopping peoples work rates. How many times does he have to do it till people start to realise. We had guerrero giving up, canelo not trying, marquez just coasting. Theres a lot more as well. Hatton came forward all night and got stopped. Maidana and de la hoya were about the only other two in recent years and maidana came in at 165 he had the frame for it. I still think thats a suspicious performance to this day he was superhuman at times in that fight. And de la hoya also had a great chin and was the bigger man. Floyds stopping them in their tracks because hes hitting them with hard sharp counters that they cant see coming. Mayweathers punch power is seriously underrated regardless of what they all say after the fight. If it wasnt why do they stop coming forward so much if he doesnt have power. I dont know how many more times mayweathers gonna do it to opponents before people realise that. Roach was smart enough to know it.


Add to the fact pacmans work rate wasnt what it was hes 36 now he always needed a high workrate to be as effective as hes been...its no longer what it was. How many years ago was clottey? Plus clottey doesnt move all night i m pretty confident i could throw 1200 at him lol. Mayweather has spent a career off setting opponents and using his reach to his advantage. His percentages are up their with anyone. Being hit and hitting.


Look if pacman was genuinely injured i disagree with people saying its an excuse surely with a shoulder injury it does change the fight. But the past leads people to believe the shoulder wasnt really a problem. Wasnt mentioned until after the fight. Mayweathers done that to opponents time and time again. Pacmans had problems with boxers/movers before. Stamina at 36 is on the wane. I genuinely would like to see a rematch. But at this stage in the day cant see anything but another re run and mayweather win.


Five years ago would have been a totally different fight. Pacman had all the attributes to beat mayweather but the same mayweather had all the attributes to beat pacman. It would have geunuinely been a super fight at the time. One that mayweather could have made instead of taking a slightly shop worn pacman. I still think mayweather would have won due to the fact he's just got too many variables in his favour. Bigger frame. Longer reach. Bigger. etc. i know you ve mentioned pacman beating bigger men before but the skill levels just too big to give up them variables imo

As famous moving up to fight de la hoya etc made pacman it was probably a bridge to far. Yeah he beat the lights out of margarito and cotto for example but he took a good bit of punishment from both. And lost a good bit of his unbeilevable stamina doing it. I just think his frame should have only went to 140 tops.

 

Floyd is smart trying to talk up a rematch. He made $150 million for a mild sparring session. If he can do that again he will get another easy UD and make another $100 million. Just smart business.

 

Good post.

 

I don't see much people giving Pac credit for countering Floyd the times he did.

 

true that. his single best punch of the fight came by countering Floyd's jab

 

hes smart . he wants to cherrypick for easy low risk high reward rematch

 

Pac got schooled, just as i predicted.. The only thing that surprised me was how easy it was!:deal

 

If there was ever a cherry pick fight for Floyd, this is the one. You're right though EASY money. It's not going to be anywhere near $100M though. Everyone knows how it will turn out.

Honestly, I think Floyd makes more money fighting Cotto or Canelo. Same with Pac. People know Pac has no chance against Floyd.

 

I know, right. Pac got a fair few great counters. I've come across some nice gifs which show just that.

Some people seem to only remember this one in the 4th

http://postimg.org/image/ixyzmh827/


But there are other good ones, like where he does the exact same thing but then get a 2nd head shot straight afterwards.

http://postimg.org/image/7pq1cbn8x/


Then there's this, where Floyd feints like he's going to throw a left then goes to the body. Manny is prepared to protect against the left and still sees the body punch coming and manages to take out some of it's steam with his left elbow and fluidly follows up with a right that misses and a left that lands

http://postimg.org/image/usgkbhoq9/


Here Manny gets hit with a right but then lands a counter left more cleanly than the shot he was hit with

http://postimg.org/image/3ufme84pp/


This one where Manny blocks the punch with his glove but also pulls back out of range anyway, and his counter right landing while Floyd is in the process of trying to evade

http://postimg.org/image/5wg3sh2ot/


And another right hand under the chin while Floyd tries to evade

http://postimg.org/image/ffpslxq71/


Blocks Floyd's right hook (hard to see from this angle though), lands his own right hook

http://postimg.org/image/fv12eyc4d/


Here's a funny one, as both land simultaneous right hooks (Floyd lands a split second earlier though).

http://postimg.org/image/xnmmmttct/

 

You can tell Floyd gave alot of respect to Pac in the ring. A lot of things he normally does he couldn't get off, Pac could hang with May boxing wise on occasions which I was surprised to see being the smaller man.

 

He was far from one armed man flipping heck blud!!!!

Being one armed is like Danny Williams - arm is hanging

Being injured like manny is like it was that evening - not doing this as well as he could but still able to do something

Fans are just OTT

Manny injured - oh he would have beaten Floyd if he wasn't

Floyd injured - oh that's why ppl think he lost against Castillo etc

Manny bangs girls out of wedlock - just going thru rough patch

Floyd bangs girls out of wedlock - look at him and his lifestyle disgusting ghetto trash

Ppl here very hard to be balanced in thei approach

Give Floyd his props and manny too

Manny had sour g****s after fight shudbhave congratulated Floyd properly (not as bad as cotto tho remember)

And just move on

 

Pacquiao defensively might be a little than expected but overall, injury or not that was one of the EASIEST Mayweather fight's.
Mayweather almost DOUBLED Pacquiao in landed shot's, and landed the best in in basically every rd.
Maybe Manny wins 4rds instead of 2 if they rematch but Cotto or Canelo is mode deserving a of rematch then Manny at this point and I'd rather see them at this point.

 

When the fight is studied with the sound off, you can see Pac made Floyd miss, hurt him more than once, parried a lot of his shots and walked straight through the one big shot Floyd did land. Compubox is a joke, completely so stats don't really equate to much.
Floyd was terrified of exchanges because the straight left really rattled him and it wasn't exactly a KO shot, so he knew if he ate a hook he would be sleeping this is why he started to fight how he did.
Floyd looked very good in round one, but then after that Pac took over, in the end people scored the fight for Floyd because he fought how he always does and Pac fought unlike himself, Pac made Floyd respect him even with this severe injury, that is why Floyd acknowledges Pac, he knew an injured Pac was still a dangerous opponent. What it has done is shown that the 2009 monster Pac was definitely a version to be avoided, this post JMM ko6 Pac is still a great boxer.

 

I don't know what you were watching man because that fight wasn't close. If Manny hurt himself in the "4th" rd that doesn't explain him getting lit up in the 1st three rds. From the opening bell Floyd was drilling Manny with his tactical offense, he maybe have been over cautious at times and measured but Manny was getting startched and got/was hesitant after 1rd.

 

Haha lit up, Floyd only landed in round 1 I grant you, in round 2,3,4 Pac was chasing him all over, the ''success'' Floyd had in 2 and 3 were all pitter patters mainly parried by Pac and answered with harder shots, rewatch the fight so you have some credibility. Floyd looked out of his depth after round 1, he looked good in a total of 3 rounds.

The one shot Floyd landed that was big Pac walked through and answered from that moment Floyd ran and didn't try again.
He did a good cuff hook 3 times in a later round which i scored for him, other than that he looked bad, scared and ineffective. No wonder Floyd Snr was worried and upset, he even said he looked scared.

https://youtu.be/BNpj03sZkic