Manny Pacquiao Post Surgery [Photo]

Actually it was 100% going into the bout, he had no pains/nothing.

That's what he said, out of his own mouth.

He only injured it because he was missing wide ass shots and damaged his shoulder.

It was because of Mayweather that he's injured. :happy

 

I disagree. I consider myself a very very objective, very fair man.

If May lost legitimately, I'd be the first man to say so.

But hearing all of these bull**** excuses really gives boxing such a bad name. He knows in his heart that he lost because he was the inferior fighter, he injured his shoulder missing wide shots because of May's defense.

That's a fact that even he admitted.

I have nothing against Pac. Really don't. It's just that he's becoming worse than David Haye/Marquez together in terms of making up bull**** excuses. :deal

 

You need not worry about how old I'm.

You're losing in this debate and you're trying to deviate away from it.

You're still very angry because Floyd won. That's a fact.

It's actually quite sad to see. :scaredas:

You're making excuse after excuse as to why May won. You're probably 14-15 years old or something, because you remind me of little kiddies in the playpen whining about losing. :yep

 

Trying to personally attack me will do absolutely nothing for you. Don't think words can actually phase me, you're out of your league when it comes to talking ****.

Everyone can see how ****ed off you've become since May's victory.

You're actually so naive. And it actually scares me to see how naive and stupid you actually are. :admin

I'm sorry your hero lost, but face facts.

May won. :yep

 

I really do think that anyone in Pac's position would do the same thing. The best fight for him is Mayweather 2, and if he can do it by saying he was injured, w/e.

 

I think it's blatantly obvious as to what he's doing.

Even Mayweather has called him out on it

"Yeah what a coincidence"

 

You obviously don't have an understanding of this type of injury. I have suffered from a partially torn rotator cuff and I was put out of training for MONTHS. The amount of pain a full tear would cause would force Pac to pull out of the fight. Roach stated that he felt the shoulder had healed well. If the injury was as severe as you claim it was before the fight he wouldn't have been throwing the shots he was during. Adrenaline or not. He obviously tore his cuff MISSING against Floyd. Someone mentioned Vitali vs. Byrd, missing shots does CAUSE shoulder injuries to happen.

I would love to see a rematch for the sole reason of squashing this whole myth that Pac would have done better if he was '100%'. Remember that there were several reports coming out that Floyd was having hand issues and a deep cut in his mouth late in camp.

 

How can it be a lie when several people have confirmed the injury including a surgeon and his sparring partners who were sent home early?

 

Pac already stated that he aggravated it in the 4th, tore it missing shots.

She just doesn't get it.

She is that stupid.

In her hollow head, she's just trying to find excuse after excuse even after Pac has confirmed it.

It's actually that ridiculous. :nut

 

This is my theory:

1) Pac has a torn rotator cuff issue in training. Most torn rotator cuffs do not require surgery. Most are treated with proper excercise/rest and any combination of pain killers, anti-inflammatory and steroid injections. Torn rotator cuffs are common in sports.

2) It's not an issue for the fight. As I've said it depends on the severity and Pac's statements and doctors suggest this is the case. For all intent and purpose he was 100%.

3) He wanted medication because he's mentally weak. The coach on ESPN explains it as there is playing football hurt and playing football injured. Everybody plays hurt. But sometimes people who are hurt think they're injured so they need drugs. If you're injured, you don't fight. Pac now says he just wanted the medication "just in case", which is consistent with boxing hurt, which all boxers do.

4) Pac tore it in the 4th.

5) Here's where the wording used is scrutinized. The diagnosis was "SIGNIFICANT TEAR" which doesn't mean SEVERE. It means it's significant enough to warrant surgery. 4-6 months rehabilitation indicates it's on the lower end. We saw him fight without wincing and really without pain. It could be more Bob/Pac's call to get the surgery than the doctor to avoid the length of healing process and re-tearing in the future.

So if I were to compare Pac's injury up against a broken jaw like Paulie fought with or Abraham. Abrahams's injury was much more severe and he fought with EXCRUCIATING pain. Can you imaging getting touched many times with a broken jaw? That's bravery. Pac seems like a wuss in comparison especially considering it isn't the 9-12 month variety.

 

Floyd wins that fight regardless.
He probably re-aggravated it during the fight but I didn't see anything that would suggest a different outcome than a Floyd UD.