The official Mayweather vs. Pacquiao aftermath trash receptacle

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Mar 20, 2013.


  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    117-111

    Anything 118-110 to 116-112 is acceptable but if you gave Pac 5 rounds then you are smoking crack.
     
  2. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    floyd gets rewarded for making manny miss, but manny isn't rewarded for making floyd miss?
     
  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Floyd dictated the action to an extreme.

    Floyd landed way more punches.
     
  4. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super Oneā„¢ banned

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    I think anything from 10-2 Mayweather if you are being generous to him (only giving Pac 4 & 6), to 7-5 being generous to Pac (also giving Pac 2, 9 & 10) are acceptable scorecards.

    I personally had it 8-4 (4, 6, 9, 10 for Pac) to Mayweather
     
  5. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    First time , shame on you, second time shame on us...why we need to see this fiasco again...why they want to suck our money once again....the evidence is clear we all got defrauded....all of us!

    So, even if the fight happens on regular TV my tolerance for this fiasco has come to an End!

    For all of us that are boxing fans, and respect its history ....we all have to boycot this nonsense!!
     
  6. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    I care and I'd definitely love to see it. Who else is there?, Khan?
     
  7. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Floyd ran the whole fight. It's just incomprehensible what people write hete.
     
  8. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Love it, Experienced commentators and fighters all back Floyd because they love him, rather than the fact that he's so uniquely gifted that he converts guys like Froch into believers once they get to see him work up close.

    I mean it's not like he's 48-0 and defeated a number of HOF fighters now is it.
     
  9. Daft P

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    When I was watching the fight the noise in the pub was so loud that nobody could hear the commentators. After 12 rounds most people said it is either a draw or a very narrow win for Mayweather. I have rewatched the fight twice since then. There are still a number of rounds, such as round 3 or round 12 I really cannot make my mind up about, every time I see something differently. Floyd's clear rounds were 1, 5, 7 and 11, Pac's clear rounds were 4 and 6. Even rounds where Floyd was perhaps closer to edge it were 2 and 8. Even rounds where Pac was closer to prevail were rounds 9 and 10. Totally even rounds for me are 3 and 12.

    It is a difficult fight to score and I strongly disagree with anyone speaking of a "wide margin" and confident victory for Mayweather. I can accept that this is a kind of fight where ringside observers had a much better perspective than a TV broadcast viewer, so I accept that Mayweather looked more convincing. Still, I would not have been surprised AT ALL to hear that the result is a draw.
     
  10. FAT_TONEY

    FAT_TONEY Active Member Full Member

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    I have watched the fight together with 3 friends, all of us boxing experts, and all of us scoring the fight round by round. We're neither US citizens or Filipinos, and neither fans of Pacquiao or Floyd either. 3 of us (including me) had Pacquiao winning it by the slightest of margins (1 single point, with 1 round even), and one had Mayweather ahead by 1 round. It was certainly a difficult fight to score because there were many close rounds, I guess this is a fight that could have gone either way, depending on how you score fights. The official scorecards were ridiculous - the only explanation for these cards can be that all the close rounds were automatically scored for Mayweather. Still, 118-110 seems biased.

    But I can see very well why a lot of people scored it for Mayweather. This was clearly a 'Mayweather' fight, and not a Pacquiao type of fight. Mayweather imposed his style of fighting, he was in total control for large stretches of the fight and he kept it in the middle of the ring for the most part. There is, however, one important factor that takes away a lot from his performance: he totally neglected his offense. His defense was as effective as it possibly could be (it wasn't brilliant though, a lot of his defense consisted of holding and running, but it was undeniably effective), but where was the offense? I have never seen such a low punch output from Mayweather. You could clearly see that he was hesitant to throw, he was nervous (that's also why he wasn't as accurate as he used to when throwing), and, in lack of a better word, he was 'scared'. He was afraid to get countered by Pacquiao, whose handspeed matched his own. And at the same time, Mayweather didn't counter himself, like he usually does - the few punches he landed clearly were nearly all jabs and right hand leads. Boxing is about 'hit without getting hit', and Mayweather neglected the first in favour of the latter. How can you win rounds without throwing punches? An argument can be made that Mayweather won the fight based on his ring generalship though. On a side-note, Floyds legs looked fine and he definitely had the edge when it comes to foot-speed (especially when moving away from Pac).

    Pacquiaos performance was very disappointing. Be it because of a shoulder injury or because he simply has slipped too much these last years, this was only a shadow of the Pacquaio of 5 years ago... he was never able to take control of the fight, he only had moments. You could clearly see that he tried, but his efforts were nullified by Mayweather (unfortunately too often by holding). At the end of the day however, Pacquiao didn't get hit much, simply because Mayweather didn't throw punches. And that is an important point. None of the two landed many clean shots, but I thought that Pacquiao still outworked and outhustled Mayweather in some rounds. Pacquiaos aggression wasn't effective, but when you've got two fighters who don't land punches, for whatever reason, the round should be scored in favour of the fighter who 'did more work', meaning who threw more. And in many rounds, that fighter was Pacquiao. Of course Pacquiao should still have done more, but maybe he did just enough to deserve the nod, or a draw.

    I feel that, even though he officially won, Mayweather gave this fight away in a sense. I believe he showed that he is the better fighter, at any rate he is the much fresher fighter, and he could have won this in a dominant fashion - if he only wanted to. As it stands, he showed Pacquiao way too much respect and solely concentrated on his defense, bordering on going into survival mode at times. And there lies an argument why Pacquiao might have deserved the nod by a tiny little bit, despite an overall poor performance.
     
  11. PugilisticPower

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    All I can say is the three of you don't know much about boxing or at least how fights are scored if you scored it towards Pacquaio. There is no card in history that can give Pacquaio the fight, he threw less punches, landed less punches and was all but inexistent in seven out of twelve rounds.
     
  12. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ..........................
     
  13. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this
     
  14. Don't Sleep

    Don't Sleep Personal Trainer Full Member

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    Watching live I had it 8-4 Mayweather. I gave Manny rds. 2,4,5,6.
    However after re watching 3x, I gave Manny rds. 4,6 & 7. (I have no idea what I was thinking giving Pacquiao rd.5 initially)

    Anyway, Floyd basically toyed with Manny after the 7th rd. The 11thrd., Floyd could have either stopped him or got a knockdown, but he is very cautious. Anyone scoring more than 4rds. for Manny is clearly biased. I respect your post though, just cant see how you gave Manny 5 rds., let alone a draw like another poster on this thread said.
     
  15. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    115-113 or a draw??

    You can tell the novices on this forum pretty easily, regardless if they have a "neutral" position on fighters such as this OP.

    That fight wasn't even remotely close. Pacman could barely do anything in there effectively, and that's saying something because FLoyd fought tentatively most of the night.

    People think the rematch would be closer for some reason. I'm under the impression that Floyd would look a lot less nervous a second time around.

    Anyway, Pacman doesn't deserve a rematch. He's a liar and a fraud, and for the amount of trash talking he was doing before the fight with his coach, I'm glad he ended up getting embarassed. Why exactly should he be rewarded after coming off like such a sore loser after their first match? He looked like the slower man in there that night, I don't expect anything to change except maybe a worse pummeling the second time around.

    He should focus on his political career and leave the boxing and singing to someone else.