Roy Jones: How Good Was He?

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I will say Roy has a very good resume:

    Hopkins
    Toney
    Hill
    Tarver
     
  2. Alien

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    Honestly this guy posts the same ****e over and over again about the weight loss.

    The difference in weight on fight night between Jones at HW and at LHW was sub 7lbs.

    Apparently, this made Jones a walking corpse.
     
  3. Loudon

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    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    EVERYTIME we have a debate regarding Roy's career, you get owned with facts and logic, and then disappear. So I'm not expecting anything different this time. But I'll humour you for a while.

    So come on Einstein, where's the nonsense?

    Was Roy ripped at almost 200 pounds? Yes or no?

    Did he have a low percentage of body fat? Yes or no?

    Did he have to lose muscle to hit 175 for Tarver? Yes or no?
     
  5. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    Why don't you read about muscle loss from credible online sources instead of just repeating Jones' nonsense?

    Muscles change size according to the stress applied to them. As soon as Jones stopped the heavy weights then his body would of started to break down the unwanted muscle, returning Jones to his pre Ruiz form. He did not need to be on a heavy weights regime for Tarver. In fact he could of cut weights out altogether and just trained using Callisthenics for strength training.

    The power lifter lost muscle at a rate of around 3.5 lbs of muscle per month, which is the typical rate at which muscle loss from detraining occurs, which backs up Anotherfans point. In other words he lost 7 lbs of muscle in 2 months from not training at all.
     
  6. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Hill fight was meaningless at the time Roy fought him because DM had already beaten him and taken his belts.
     
  7. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    How do you know he was struggling?

    7+lbs of muscle in 2 months is nothing. The process of detraining by itself would of taken care of most of the muscle loss without any conscious effort on his part. The muscle loss would of been even easier with all of that cardio he was doing, especially running
     
  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I answer all your questions you just give excuses. And yes Jones was 188 give or take 2 pounds on fight night at Light Heavyweight. You blame Roy's KO loss on weight yet the guy had 14 freaking months to adjust to the weight :lol::rofl
     
  9. Scar

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    Easily one of the absolute greatest of all times. His reflexes are unmatched in the sport and doesn't look to be matched anytime soon either. Just search for someone that was an impressive as he was in his prime and someone that displayed the moves he did. He makes it look easy but it sure as hell isn't.

    There are some idiots out there that will try to say he fought stiffs and so forth. Then why don't we have more fighters looking like Roy Jones fighting similar stiffs?. If it was so easy to perform like that, we would have a long list fighting and performing against RJJ facing stiffs.
     
  10. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Yes Roy had to lose a staggering 5-7 pounds of water, muscle, and fat. You don't just lose muscle. That is why we laugh at you. 60% of a human adults body is water. That is over half so it is IMPOSSIBLE for Roy to "just be losing muscle" it doesn't work that way :lol::rofl
     
  11. shadow111

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    How Good was he???? Sounds like ya musta FORGOT!!
     
  12. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Steve Kim had an excellent break down of Clinton Woods record that proved yes he was just another manufactured Roy Jones ABC org opponent when he could have been fighting legit contenders.

    http://a.espncdn.com/boxing/a/2002/0904/1427223.html
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was replying to another member. :patsch

    Marc Ratner who was the director of the N.S.A.C. weighed Roy at the official weigh in for Ruiz, where Roy weighed 193 pounds. Mackie Shilstone then queried the weight, but they never got the chance to weigh in again, due to a scuffle breaking out between Norman Stone and Alton Merkerson. So Ratner re weighed Roy on fight night, and apologised to Mackie Shilstone, when the weight read 199 pounds. Respected writer Thomas Hauser who was there, reported it for Seconds Out, and noted that Roy weighed 196 pounds, if you subtracted three pounds for his clothes.

    Roy's fight night weight for the first Tarver fight, was 185 pounds.

    Also, Roy took the Tarver fight against the advice of Mackie Shilstone, who has said that losing muscle mass can affect the body's immune system.
     
  14. Loudon

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    :good
     
  15. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But you have never seen my reflexes....




    They're slow.