Arum: Pacquiao has had injury since 2008

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  1. finalfight

    finalfight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No excuses. No problem with movement during fight. Signed no to injury on medical form pre-fight, arms on ropes in between rounds and raised at the end. No mention of injury to corner, no-one noticed during fight, no drop in punch output at all. Right hand used consistently throughout. Injury was from 2008 and may be being used as an excuse or get out clause.
     
  2. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    Like Ive said elsewhere, this type of injury isnt always debilitating.

    Andre Ward had a similiar injury essentially his entire pro career, all the way up to the Rodriguez fight
     
  3. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    does arum realize he just ****ed manny up saying that?
     
  4. icarus1

    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ariza knows a lot of pac. it's becoming clear now why floyd's camp got him. he knows the dents in pac's body. floyd just does everything to protect that "0". floyd pays to cheat and gain all the advantages he can get. he was forced to make the fight, knew pac had only one good arm after he damaged the right and still he ran all night from the left. he never trash talked before the fight being petrified and now that the fight was over, he calls pac a coward. lol
     
  5. finalfight

    finalfight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Go get some fresh air. Idiot.
     
  6. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what a joke pac and his team are
     
  7. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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  8. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lost so much respect for Pac
     
  9. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    What's funny is, Pacs severely torn shoulder is taking away from the scoring travesty that night, so many people think the fight was rigged but very little airtime dedicated to it due to the injury. I wonder why? Media, money etc etc

    What we saw that night was a few things
    1 Pac's handspeed was significantly quicker than Mayweathers and May didn't know what hit him at times
    2 Pac's straight left put Floyd on ***** street so imagine an uppercut or hook
    3 Pac walked through Floyds best power shot and Floyd decided no more and ran
    4 Pacs leg cramps are a hindrance
    5 Half fit bloated Pac in many peoples eyes beat a fully fit Floyd who employed the running tactic
     
  10. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Quit smoking cocaine. I'm pretty sure you're supposed to snort it instead.
     
  11. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Great argument, nothing substantial so ad hominem instead:patsch
     
  12. finalfight

    finalfight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope. Mayweather's handspeed was much faster. He countered Manny time and time again, neutralizing Manny's output and making him reluctant to throw. This is clearly back up by a working pair of eyes and the punch stats.

    Nope. Floyd didn't seem bothered at all by Pacquiao's 'power'. Besides that in the real world Manny couldn't land an uppercut or hook so imagine away... Hardest punches of the fight came in round 11 and were landed on Manny.

    Nope. No running. It's called movement and Floyd has it in abundance. Pacquiao's footwork and footspeed was poor by comparison and he was unable to close distance. Even two dimensional brawlers such as Maidana had more success than this so called elite fighter. Based on his previous 47 fights did you really expect Floyd to stand in front of Manny rather than move and control distance with his jab?

    No excuses.

    Bloated? Another excuse - also 'in many people's eyes? GTFO you DKSAB troll.
     
  13. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    You know you don't have to do the annoying reply format, I know it helps you keep track of things because it's simple, but it's also very annoying.

    Clearly you missed where Pac dazzled him a bunch of times and parried the Floyd ''counters'' to force Floyd onto the back foot and peddle around the ring, it's okay though with the media dictating what you saw I can forgive that ****ysis. However it was very clear Pac was not only getting through but as Floyd snr said, his son was fighting scared and Floyd himself '' he's not in here facing Pacquaio, easier said than done'' That is the reason Floyd couldn't engage like he did with Cotto and Canelo, he couldn't cope with the handspeed.

    The final part you tried to address, well he does have good footspeed, but when he uses it and no offence then it is running, it is ineffective running, only good at ensuring he doesn't get hit but also unable to hit.
    I actually fully expected Floyd to run when he felt Mannys power, I am just disappointed that he doesn't use his ''superior'' boxing ability to evade punches like Whittaker would and then counter combos, but what upsets me the most is the Floyd who never walked down Manny and Ko'ed him in what was the biggest fight possible he broke all his promises against someone who was substantially smaller.
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    You are also not credible or relevant to label anyone anything here, cheerio:hi:
     
  14. It goes to show who the smarter fighter is.

    "running away" LOL. You can tell the people whove never been in a fight let alone box before in their lives. Not being able to hit someone is the most demoralizing thing of all time. :rofl:rofl

    Did mayweather have a choice? EVERYTIME he came forward pac ACTUALLY ran.

    Pac - runner
    floyd- leading and countering.

    :good:good
     
  15. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly what I posted last night.

    This will be a recurring injury that Pac probably has had to live with for some time. It probably has very little effect on his functionality - and he's thought it might just be the excuse he needed to get the rematch.

    Lost a lot of respect for Pac throughout this debacle.