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The official Mayweather vs. Pacquiao aftermath trash receptacle

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Floyd Mayweather is undoubtedly one of the best boxers of his generation. He embodies the American work ethic and his competitive spirit is legendary. "Money" has earned every penny of his millions with hard work and dedication; nobody can take that away from him.

However, he's also the "Compubox Champ." When his fights are ****yzed by a computer, the numerous times he runs from an opponent or clinches an opposing fighter (after experiencing a solid shot) is never part of the mathematical equation. To the contrary, his style is perfect for a computer, not a boxing fan, scoring the match. In the Mayweather era of boxing, quick jabs and perpetual movement away from the opponent is what earns a $100 million check.

"Money" Mayweather has perfected a formula, one that almost ensures that his athleticism and knack for clinching and evading will either tire out his opponent or garner enough points to win the bout. As a result, he's consistently ahead in the Compubox score because his jab is counted while his evasion isn't factored into the equation. In a world where statistics drive the salaries of players in every sport, Mayweather has honed his style seamlessly to the efficiency and raw numbers lauded by Compubox.

Gone are the days of Hagler and Hearns going toe to toe; today's boxer wins by the punch count, regardless of the power of the punch or what takes place before or after the punch. The irony with this new era in boxing is that Compubox was never meant to score fights. As stated by its owner in Boxing News Online, the computer program was never meant to replace the judges:

CompuBox was never designed to score fights. The program was created to provide a barometer of a fighter's activity. We've never said and we never will say that we're the be-all and end-all when it comes to scoring fights, as there are more elements to take into consideration.

Yes, Mayweather is efficient and his defense is superb, but did he truly "beat" Pacquiao, or just rack up enough points to win a computer-scored boxing match? As the owner of Compubox states, "there are more elements to take into consideration" other than punch count or efficiency.

Manny Pacquiao, on the other hand, is a fighter. He fights. He doesn't instinctively clinch or evade an opponent's onslaught as if the ring were a velodrome. While he might have landed fewer shots, Pacquiao's combinations kept Mayweather either on the ropes or running. He was the aggressor, while Mayweather was constantly weary of his potential for a knockout blow.

Even with a bad shoulder hampering his effectiveness, Shane Mosley and Evander Holyfield scored "The Fight of The Century" for Pacquiao. Holyfield said after the fight that he thought Pacquiao won. According to Mosley, "It was seven rounds out of (12) for Manny." As for a recap of the boxing match, Evander Holyfield made the following assessment in a recent ABS-CBN News.com article titled "Holyfield: I thought Pacquiao won":
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/mayweather-is-the-compubo_b_7220388.html

ryan_c, May 8, 2015

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Somewhere along those lines I think.

Manny should be so lucky as to face off with floyd again.

I told all of you before, he not worthy enough to carry Floyd's jockstrap.

mr. piff, May 8, 2015

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Stylez G. said: ↑

They asked Ariza about it early Wednesday before Pacquiao's surgery. Ariza gave his opinion would probably get a shoulder scope and not invasive surgery. When asked to explain what he meant, this is what he said:

"It is surgery. It's not invasive. I mean, it's an outpatient clinic thing. You go in there and it takes less than a couple of hours. If there's nothing wrong, you can go back to functional movement the next day without them doing nothing; just moving around some things. They'll manipulate the shoulder in certain directions and areas and they'll start to look at connective tissues, ligaments, tendons, muscles; anything that can indicate that Manny really has a tear. They also said they have a MRI, but MRIs are about maybe 70-80% accurate on joints. You know, the soulder is like a map; it looks like a road map. Ligaments, tendons, muscles, and things like that, I mean, they just cross over each other, so it's a really complicated area. Once you get in there, you really get to see what you're doing. So they'll fill it up with a bunch of fluids so they'll be able to manipulate the shoulder, move the arm around, and see if there's any ligament damage or anything torn. But like I said, let's look into the crystal ball. This is what you're going to hear. Okay, they scope it and they'll find nothing wrong, so they'll say, "Manny Pacquiao has to go under extensive rehabilitation for 6 months." That's what you're going to hear, which is to say nothing more. There's nothing ****ing wrong with him."

Interesting take by Ariza. Wasn't it reported though that Pacquiao would be out 9-12 months?
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Ariza could have gone into medicine but decided to become a strength and conditioning coach. Ariza is a joke and should keep his mouth shut because the more he opens his mouth the more he implicates himself. Wasn't he with Pac before Mayweather?????

nyboxingfan, May 8, 2015

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ryan_c said: ↑

Please leave Floyd's **** out of your mouth.
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VERY original, lil punk kid.... Did fraudios titty run out of milk??

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https://twitter.com/FloydMayweather/status/596490570194821121

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He should have pulled a Maravilla and keep insisting there was nothing wrong with the knee, even when people knew before the fight and the knee probably prevents him from fighting ever again. Pac "What rotator cuff?", "nothing wrong with it!", "so what if I need surgery?!"
That's how you prevent lawsuits. :deal

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ryan_c, May 8, 2015

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This dudes ****ysis of the fight is laughable. He actually has manny landing more shots than floyd.

mr. piff, May 8, 2015

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Goat oracle of boxing! Manny's magic overhyped and outdated

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nyboxingfan said: ↑

Ariza could have gone into medicine but decided to become a strength and conditioning coach. Ariza is a joke and should keep his mouth shut because the more he opens his mouth the more he implicates himself. Wasn't he with Pac before Mayweather?????
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That's why I believe him. What is he saying that's wrong? That's how some type of surgeries are diagnosed. My father had the same with angioplasty. They first had surgery to look around. A couple of months later they had the actual surgery. Alex is not a doctor but he has to be aware of his client's conditions to create a S&C plan.

He has a degree in Sports Medicine. Why would he not know about Torn Rotator Cuffs? It's one of the most common sports injury. I had to take stupid anatomy class as a Computer Science major.

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Thats exactly what turds are saying too...

drenlou, May 8, 2015

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where ur vcash gone MVC.

kovalevtheGoat, May 8, 2015

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Thou shall not lie.
********** says he was giving up all his titles on Monday-still waiting for THAT to happen.It is now Friday Floyd.atsch
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That's not a commandment.

Thou shall not bear false witness: Manny lied on questionarre.

Though shall not covet thy neighbors posessiona or wife: Manny lusted after other women and lusted after Floyd's money and p4p status!

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Platonist said: ↑

Remember the sabbath and keep it holy.

He stunk out several arenas in unholy fashion on several saturdays.
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#5 broken commandment by Manny

He didn't thank God post fight Saturday night

markq, May 8, 2015

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drenlou said: ↑

The point is he lied on the questionnaire... if he had taken the loss like a man everyone would of moved on....im actually thinking about filing a lawsuit against Fraudiao myself:think
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Get in line.

13 lawsuits have been filed in eight states now. More will come.

The fact that class action status is being sought and come of the plaintiffs are seeking punitive damages makes this especially tricky for Manny and Bob.

Sir Will Wigan, May 8, 2015

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