My top 10 Welterweights of all time

Burley was in the top ten at 147lbs for 4 consecutive years.
1938_1941. How good were Holman Williams and Cocoa kid at 147lbs ?

 

I'e seen them both fight and I don't believe this for a second and I still believe a prime ODH gives Mayweather all he can handle.

 

I'd probably say...

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Jose Napoles
5. Thomas Hearns
6. Kid Gavilan
7. Joe Walcott
8. Emile Griffith
9. Barney Ross
10. Mickey Walker

HM: Charley Burley, Roberto Duran, Floyd Mayweather, Jack Britton, Carmen Basilio, Ted Lewis, Tommy Ryan, Jimmy McLarnin...

 

Ring Magazine rated him at number four a few years ago. I'd say Top 10 is pretty reasonable, given his success against Zivic, Cocoa, Williams, and the like.

 

Has everybody forgotten that Tommy Ryan existed today?

 

I thought a past prime Oscar did that!

 

My take on it as well.

 

Was he the boss in Super Punch-Out?

 

No, but he probably should have been!

Joking aside, he was the Sugar Ray Leonard, of the first half of the 20th century.

 

I finally got to watch the Floyd-Pacquiao fight today and it saddens me that's what passes for greatness nowadays. He basically nullifies attacks and stifles the other fighter to an unimaginable degree. And he avoided Pacquiao like the plague for 5 years to enable him to do it.

Give me a Basilio, Pryor, Duran or Robinson any day of the week. In fact, there's 4 that could beat him, right there.

I'm not even a big Ali fan, but you have to give him credit for fighting Frazier, Foreman and Norton at their peaks; Floyd **** out of the biggest challenge available and that's not greatness in my book. Way too much is made out of undefeated records, in my opinion. You have to look at the full story.

 

Yes Floyd's good, maybe even great, but what exactly did he do at Welterweight to deserve a place in the top 10?

To some extent if you're a fighter who moves up multiple weight divisions, it diminishes your ability to be at the top of any one of them, simply because you weren't there long enough to have the kind of impact in a division that warrants a top 10 ranking.

 

Saying so in a sticking ones tongue out manner is not supportive of fact .. Do you have any clue how uneducated you sound on the topic?

Floyd has fought no one of any quality who was a natural welter in their prime .. Tito was 5' 11 with a nasty jab and monster power. He'd be punching down at Floyd who would run for his life to survive. Maurice Blocker was 6' 2" , a nasty boxer punch with a terrific jab and large wing span .. I also think he would lose to Vernon Forrest and a prime Shane Mosley, not the washed up version he fought ..

Floyd is a great fighter. Floyd is not a great welterweight. He has surgically selected blown up small fighters like Gatti, Hatton, Marquez and Paq and beaten old fighters like Oscar ( barely ) and Shane. His best win was over Cotto , another terrific fighter but not anywhere near an all time great welterweight.

You rate Floyd Mayweather over the Roberto Duran that beat Ray Leonard in Montreal ? .. :nut Seriously .. I think that Duran would tear Mayweather's head off ..

 

Anybody here mind giving some sort of narrative on how a SRR-SRL fight might've gone?

 

Poor Luis Manuel Rodriguez always forgotten