Who else goes 5-1-0 over Liston, Frazier & Foreman

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I agree he'd have the hardest time w Frazier.
     
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  2. lufcrazy

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    I wouldn't pick anyone tbh.

    Who else was that good over ten years? Not many.

    Louis, Lewis, Tyson, Wlad, Holmes, Johnson and Vitali all succeeded at a high level for that long from the top of my head.

    Out of those how many would I favour to win these fights? The man with the best chance is Tyson imo. Followed by Lewis and Vitali. But I wouldn't pick anyone to do it.
     
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  3. lufcrazy

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    Gotta do some serious decryption to understand what you actually mean here :lol:
     
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  4. janitor

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    Plausible I guess.
     
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  5. McGrain

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    Right.

    Then he has Frazier three times, including the absolutely primed version and then the pastprime version twice. He's allowed to lose one of these fights if I haven't misunderstood and has a serious size and style advantage over Joe - I could see him losing one to Liston or to Foreman but getting by against Frazier.

    I guess i've changed my mind, it's plausible.
     
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  6. Bummy Davis

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    Louis, Lewis has a chance and Walcott on 3 good nights which is hard to get him to do also good punchers who had good chins would find success against these 3
     
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  7. he grant

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    Funny (and accurate) on Walcott .. Defeating Frazier is the wildcard .. I agree with Louis and Lewis although I'm not sure about him against Liston .. Lennox had hell w Bruno, big, strong, hard punching w a long reach and Liston tops Bruno by considerable ..
     
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  8. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Go on Bummy, admit it, you were soooo close to dropping Marciano's name there!:)
     
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  9. BlackCloud

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    So as it stands we realistically only have Louis & Lewis over the same 11 yr time span but i still don't see either of them matching the 5-1-0.

    A wildcard would be Wlad but he would have to be very, very careful and tbh i think his earlier style would see him come unstuck against Liston at least once which means he would have to win the next 5 and thats a tall order with Foremans power.
     
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  10. janitor

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    I am going to say no for Wlad.

    He has longevity, but I just don't see the pre Peter version getting past these guys.
     
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  11. lufcrazy

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    I agree with Janitor.

    Although let's take his best years as 05-15.

    So Liston is the Byrd fight, I wouldn't favour Wlad but it's realistic he could catch Liston and clean his clock.

    Frazier comes over the next 8 years, three times and I think all are 50-50 although the best style Ali had against Frazier was using Wlad tactics.

    But a past prime Wlad vs a prime Foreman? Not a chance.
     
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  12. cuchulain

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    ???
     
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  13. edward morbius

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    I think Joe Louis or Lennox Lewis might sweep these opponents.

    I don't see Frazier giving them as tough a time as he gave Ali, frankly.

    Styles and punching power are wrong for Joe F.
     
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  14. edward morbius

    edward morbius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I also think Vitali Klitschko and especially Evander Holyfield might well sweep this competition.
     
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  15. janitor

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    No way.

    Far too inconsistent against that level of opposition.
     
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