So Canelo gets a pass for ducking GGG for the next 2 years??

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  1. Apocolypse313

    Apocolypse313 Guest

    If this is cool then what was the MAY/PAC fuss about because people were crazy about it. Now it's "business as usual" and "HBO can build it up bigger in a few years"!?!
    Ahh... the hate flows deep within some of you guys.
     
    Apocolypse313, May 10, 2015
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    1 or 2 years for a JMW to finally move up and face the most dangerous MW since prime Pavlik and Abraham vs ducking a fighter for 6. Don't be ridiculous, you know the difference.
     
    CST80, May 10, 2015
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  3. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    If he wants to stay at 154, that's his prerogative but they're kidding themselves if they think they can just wait for GGG to get old and get full credit for it, also GGG may not even fight at 160 in 2 years.
     
    Cafe, May 10, 2015
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  4. grindtime34

    grindtime34 Member Full Member

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    We really don't know if 6 years was the plan. Obviously it was a smart business plan either way.

    But, the last couple of years have been a necessity to get the event to its maximum level. Pac lost/got screwed to Bradley (however you feel about that fight) and then got knocked out cold. Fighting him immediately after either would have been dumb. Then Pacman needed a year off to recover and then another year or so to get a few fights under his belt and erase the thought of the knockout.

    The last 2 1/2 years have been common sense rather than "ducking". The narrative would have been him taking advantage of Pac if he fought him 2 years ago.
     
    grindtime34, May 10, 2015
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  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :yep
     
    Rumsfeld, May 10, 2015
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  6. Bollywooden

    Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think they care because they don't really want the fight.
     
    Bollywooden, May 10, 2015
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  7. mrdoctor

    mrdoctor GGG Full Member

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    Cotto vs canelo will be a non title fight cotto will drop the belt.the WBC belt means u have to fight GGG and that's suicide..
     
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  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Why is everyone convinced that the winner "has" to fight GGG. You all new to boxing or something?

    :smoke
     
    Rumsfeld, May 10, 2015
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  9. Bollywooden

    Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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    WBC made Golovkin diamond mandatory or something.
     
    Bollywooden, May 10, 2015
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  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    And that means what exactly?

    How often do sanctioning bodies say one thing, only to do something else? How often are their rules, decisions, and declarations influenced by outside parties?

    In other words, who would honestly be surprised if they didn't make another exception if/when the time comes?

    :smoke
     
    Rumsfeld, May 10, 2015
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  11. Bollywooden

    Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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    theoretically, it means the WBC champ has to fight Golovkin after Geale, even if Geale wins

    but you are correct, they can make whatever rules they like, they'd just look very bad on this one if they went back on it
     
    Bollywooden, May 10, 2015
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  12. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    That's my point.

    :smoke
     
    Rumsfeld, May 10, 2015
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  13. Dos Huevos

    Dos Huevos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At this point nobody wants to go anywhere near GGG. Fighters making plans for years in the future. The sport in general is more than happy to let GGG rot on the vine during his prime.

    I am starting to think GGG should move up and fight Ward, if that can even get done.
     
    Dos Huevos, May 10, 2015
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  14. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its quite hilarious a boxers future is mapped out for 2 years. Why doensn't ODLH say "We will fight the best guys available". That's what we want to hear, not happing out some roadblock like if Canelo was a business. He's a fighter but they manage these fighters like economic interests. It's understandable but at least don't be so blatantly honest about it.
     
    madballster, May 10, 2015
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  15. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't like hearing the whole "2 years" talk.

    So essentially, they want to wait until Alvarez is 26 and Gennady is 35.
     
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