The official Mayweather vs. Pacquiao aftermath trash receptacle

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  1. Low blow

    Low blow Member Full Member

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    Although Floyd deserves respect for his boxing abilities, no one should root for him. I have never once heard of him doing any good with his money or fame. He was in jail for good reasons and is not a good role model for children. I will continue to root against him but I will never place any amount of money against him as I am smarter than that.
     
  2. TheHun

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    Round 3

    Floyd literally lands a single punch. Pac lands four. All 3 judges gave the round to Floyd.

    Just one example.

    No, Floyd didn't win the fight.
     
  3. pugs

    pugs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao did pretty well with a busted right hand (manila ice). It showed in the fight that he's not using it in full stregth. Landed the better punches.
     
  4. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    apparently so, no fighter should ever have to learn to effectively cut off the ring and trap a mover according to these guys :patsch
     
  5. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    It's funny every time someone lands clean on Floyd everyone pretends like he was deeply wobbled and hurt... but it's just because he so rarely get's hit clean.

    He was buzzed against Mosley, he wasn't even buzzed against Pac. Though that was one of only 2 rounds I think Pac actually won.
     
  6. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Judges can't see every single punch landed. But, any judge worth his/her salt can (usually) see who the ring general is, who has better defense, who the effective aggressor is, and who is landing the cleaner punches. And, as you know, they score based on that. Mayweather obviously understands this very well too. It's other fighters who usually don't.

    Generally, in a Mayweather fight. He is the fighter landing the cleaner more eye catching punches in more of the rounds. He may not always visibly "hurt" his opponent. But, his punches landed are very obvious and either snap the opponent's head back or stop them in their tracks, forcing them to reset. His defense is clearly better than everyone else's...no need to say more about that. He takes control of a round in a way that makes guys who come forward look ineffective. They can't really hit him clean, can't pin him down, and can't stop him from landing clean punches on them. He usually puts an opponent where he wants him in the ring. Sometimes that is on the ropes. And other times it's in the center of the ring. He is the ring general more times than not.

    If he is in with someone whose strategy is to box, he becomes the (effective) aggressor. He walks them down, cuts the ring, lands clean shots, roughs them up and prevents them from landing clean on him (for the most part).

    In most cases it's not hard to score a Mayweather fight. Manny is a great fighter. But, he does not know how to score a fight.
    I recall he picked Mosley to beat Mayweather, because he was fast and he felt Mosely would throw a lot of punches. No.
     
  7. carrotlad

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    This isn't amateur boxing. I'm not saying Pac didn't win the round but scoring criteria isn't number of punches.

    Effective aggression
    Clean, hard punching
    Defence
    Ring Generalship
     
  8. pugs

    pugs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol same here. Why would he need to change the rules that let him win an easy decision without regards to actually fighting.
     
  9. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    I'd like to see an objective scoring system that automatically deducts points after so many clinches rather than just a judgement call subjectively rendered by the ref.

    If it were up to me, clinching would be far more punitive - anything more than one per round would result in a point deduction. (perhaps allow for an extra one or two clinches if a fighter is trying to recover from a knockdown)
     
  10. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Americans in general(obviously not all), as proven, support athletes or other stars based on their talent and general representation of themselves. They don't discriminate if that athlete is black, green, yellow or whatever. If he/she is awesome, he/she will get the support, love and respect they rightfully deserve. How can anyone not admire and respect this attitude?.
     
  11. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You *****'s are something else. The fight was very close, Pac easily won 4 rounds and 2 others were very close and arguably went to pac for landing the harder shots. Floyd wasn't doing any damage, but Pac was with his shots. Also, floyd wasn't landing nearly the amount of clean punches he normally lands on opponents, pac's speed and head movement, reflex's had him making floyd miss more than any other opponent has with Floyd. Pac was also coming forward and at times was effective. In a close round, the guy going forward trying to fight should be given the nod. I think a draw was completely fair, but all this smoke and mirrors of Floyd dominating from baised boxing fans and commentators really is ridiculous.
     
  12. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good I respect may fighter but outside the ring he is a real POS.
     
  13. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    Patriotism, in boxing, takes a backseat to excitement.

    Patriotism, in the rest of life, takes a backseat to what's fair and just for all.
     
  14. dins1096

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    Pac did nothing for the first 3 rounds. Mayweather came out as the agressor and outlanded him. Nothing to debate there. It wasn't until the 4th where Pac landed something of note. Him thinking he won makes me thing he is as delusional as I origianlly thought. Look at his face and mannerism during the later stages of the fight and after. He looked like a defeated man as did roach. He knowns he lost which is why Arum, Roach and Pac used the shoulder as an excuse and are demanding a rematch.
     
  15. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I had it 116-112 listening to the biased HBO/showtime crew and not really scoring it but just trying to enjoy it, but the second time I watched it I did not listen to the commentators and did score it. Pac easily won 4 rounds, but also won another this time and there was another round that was close that could have went to him. It was no worse than 115-113 but I think a draw was fair. I thought Floyd landed quite a few more punches the first time but when really watching, Pac was getting in just as many lefts as floyd was rights almost, and floyd was hurt twice. Most of floyd's jabs were actually picked up, but it was there he landed more overall punches than Pac, but the most effective, damaging shots were landed by Pac.
    That fight was way closer than the biased tv crew. Just listen to floyd sr in the corner almost every round all over floyd asking him what is wrong, asking him if he's scared, getting really upset. HE KNEW PAC was right there with him.
    I also found it funny right when Pac hurts floyd with a left and has him staggered and covering up on the ropes, instead of the crew giving Manny credit, Jones says "he better watch out or Pac's going to get KO'd" giving zero credit for what pac just did to Floyd! That is a prime example of how skewed they were.
    I could just hear Larry Merchant had he been there saying " Are you serious Roy? Floyd hasn't KO'd anyone since 1999" LOLOL