again, someone who claims monaco was built to be the vegas of asia doesn't get to call anybody moron. and you can pretend a half empty hall in oakland on a minority channel pays better than a stadium rammed to the gunnels with 40k on sky ppv if you like, but don't expect me to play along. i've said all along froch's desire for a rematch waned in direct proportion to ward's career, and a fight now suits neither man, but despite all this and being a family man considering retirement after a long, hard career, froch made a feasible proposition and ward turned it down. the rematch would have happened but for a catalogue of woeful career decisions by ward. given he refuses to fight the dirrells even though they're both up for it, and has turned down lucrative fights v bute, stevenson, kessler and now froch, it ain't froch's motivation people need to question.
You'er a rambling idiot. Where is your evidence that Ward was offered career high payday by Froch's team and turned it down. Where is you evidence that an offer was made to Ward at all. Evidence or shut the fock up jackass.
you know that last part's untrue, and "flippantly" more accurately describes ward's response to froch's entirely feasible and plausible offer. add that to turning down the dirrells, bute, stevenson and kessler and it ain't froch's career you need to be worried about. face it, we'd be linking up for a pre-fight pint in nottingham if ward had gone for it, but he prefers the 2nd best smw in the smith family at a catchweight in oakland.
you can't even spell you're. he was offered the city ground on ppv and you know it. do the maths yourself.
The last part?? You mean the part where I said Froch and his team said for the previous 2-3 years that "They're not interested in fighting Ward, because there isnt enough money in it?" I can provide all the links, written and video if you want? Id have been all for the pint, but I truly dont believe Froch ever really wanted the fight. He only brought up Nottingham when the WBA threatened to take away his belt.
He's not motivated to avenge his loss to ward? More like he knows he's got no chance and doesn't want to get beat again.
that's different to both what they said and what you posted above. we've seen since that froch ain't bothered about the belts, and he mentioned the city ground because he's said for some time it was there or vegas ppv or nothing, and ward can't provide vegas ppv. and even if wba mandating the fight were the only reason, nothing changes the facts that froch seized the opportunity, made ward a feasible and generous offer, ward refused, wba stopped purse bids which in all likelihood would go matchroom's way, and ward announced a catchweight bout against smith which he'd been negotiating all along.
i think it's a combination of age, being contented with a long career, unthought of riches, family life and over time coming to terms with ward being neither available nor a draw. do you believe if ward's career had progressed as it should've, the rematch wouldn't've happened?
I have to agree with Froch and admit that it is probably hard to get motivated to take another butt kicking.
No he didn't. He fought Rodriguez in Nov 2013, Ward didn't sue Goosen until Dec 2013. While Ward did request a arbitration earlier that year that he lost he didn't sue Goosen until after the Rodriguez fight.
Are you denying that Froch and his team said on multiple occasions words to the effect of "We have no interest in fighting Ward, he doesnt bring in enough money"? What offer did Froch actually make? Fighgt me in my back garden or nowhere? Negotiations never even begun
froch's oft-repeated plan after losing the s6 final was clear, get a title and go after rematches of his defeats. as ward's career waned, so did froch's desire for a rematch and quotes over time reflect this. negotiations never happened because ward turned the offer down flat. your backyard comment is trite, and given the location of ward's last and next fights, ill-advised.