Is Mayweather the best Super Featherweight ever??

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Pacqiao's first win over MAB was spectacular. Barrera was one of my favourites back then but even I had to applaud that. Barrera was a beast but Pacquiao was all over him from the get-go like a soup sandwich. He fought with an intensity and fire like I've rarely seen. It was almost supernatural. The most astonishing moment in that fight for me was when Barrera sat on the canvas forlornly with a look of utter bewilderment etched across his face after the first KD. His expression spoke volumes.. it said ''what the f*ck am I dealing with here?'' and it was at that exact moment I realized Pacquiao was something special.
     
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  2. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've received flak from people in real life and on the boards from my stance on the first Pacquiao Barrera fight.

    But I stand by what I think.

    That was the greatest performance since Hagler Hearns.
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I don't know where I'd rank it in terms of significance but it was a truly fantastic performance against a fantastic opponent.

    Both Pacquiao (prime) and Barrera (prime)>>>Floyd H2H and in terms of accomplishments at the weight as do all the other super featherweights I've mentioned in this thread and posted videos of. Pep, Saddler, Armstrong, Attell, Canzoneri, Sanchez, Chocolate etc. etc all >>> Floyd H2H and in terms of accomplishment at the weight. :deal
     
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  4. Vanboxingfan

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    Well one thing for sure, is your schooled Pimp C that's for damn sure. Good job. :good
     
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  5. Serge

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    Thanks. I sure did. You could squeeze an oil tanker through that hole I just tore in his ass. :deal :good
     
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  6. Pimp C

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    Surrender??? LMFAO I just missed your reply. Your whole basis for EM beating PBF is in a sparring session that doesn't have **** to do as to how an actual boxing match would take place.:lol::rofl I asked you to tell me how a boxer puncher like EM who's beat in most departments against PBF would beat him? You still have't answered anything just thrown around bull**** like sparring like that means something. Try again. PBF is a stylistic nightmare for EM and it's no wonder why most people in here think he would be all wrong for EM.

    EM doesn't have the speed nor the footwork to stay with a prime PBF at 130 he would be beat up at all ranges. PBF would hit EM and be gone before he could get off and when he did come in he would get countered to hell and back. Honestly EM would be lucky to win 2 rounds and those would be rounds that PBF took off. Like I said before EM can't outbox PBF nor will he knock him out so how does he win? PBF at 130 was the closest thing to a perfect fighter as you'll ever see no real weaknesess at that weight.:deal
     
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  7. tinman

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    You just glossed over pages of him describing Morales' wins over peak ATG fighters. And how his level of competition was so thoroughly impressive.

    If you won't listen to his best points and try and refute them then he schooled you.

    He did school you man. Took you back to the 4th grade.
     
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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He didn't school **** EM was 4-3 at 130 and was done at the age of 30. He would be lucky to win a round against PBF. PBF is the GOAT at 130 the best fighter of this era and the greater fighter period not even close. EM isn't the best fighter of anything not only that he's a disgraced fat weight draining cheat. :deal
    PBF>Em deal with it.
     
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  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Again you failed to address his victories over Barrera and Pacquiao which is what Serge has highlighted.

    If you can't refute his point you just go back to generalities and say PBF wins H2H. I can make claims too you know. Like Roman Gonzalez beats Wlad H2H...... He does because in my mind he does and that's enough. Forget what actually happened. Just pull H2H out my ass.

    He took you back to 4th grade.
     
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  10. dins1096

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    :deal
     
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  11. Pimp C

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    Who gives a damn about MAB? PBF would knock him out and make him look like an amatuer. I mean you really don't believe that PBF wouldn't have beaten MAB?:rofl:lol: PBF would beat everyone on EM's resume, the same can't be said for EM.:deal
     
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  12. Serge

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    You took an absolutely savage pounding up the ass and you know you did (as does everyone else who has been following this) and then you ducked out of the fire escape when the heat got too hot for you. The fact that your guns are still firing blanks after you took leave to regroup and plan your next line of attack is frankly embarrassing. Surely even you could've mustered up something better than this since last night?

    You can shove your technical breakdown and an*lysis up that big crater my d*ck made in your ass last night. Floyd's nuts are so far down your throat it's a wonder you can still even breathe, let alone actually keep typing all this delusional clueless drivel all the time. :deal

    Thing is I actually agree with you that a prime Morales would stand no chance of beating Floyd, but only because Floyd wouldn't go within a 5000 mile radius of a prime Morales if there was a 1% chance that they might actually end up sharing a ring with each other minus sans big gloves and headgear. :deal

    Prime Morales would beat the bejesus out of Floyd in a real fight just like he did in sparring when he was the champ at 122 and Floyd was the champ at 130. :patsch

    Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you pick Floyd and Broner to paddle Maidana's ass? How did that work out for you? That crude bum Maidana beat the snot out of both of them. A 500 year old Morales paddled that talentless oaf Maidana's ass something rotten when he was absolutely shot to sh*t and fighting blind in one eye for 98% of the fight. lol

    I just killed you with pure science (again). :rofl
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Take your ass whopping like a man this time. There is literally no coming back from an A whopping of this magnitude.

    You got absolutely obliterated. Accept it and move on. :deal

    My work is done here. :deal
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The Pimp got turned into a hoe. :rofl
     
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  15. Pimp C

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    Take your spin and corny ass talk somewhere else I want a technical breakdown dummy. You can't do one because you know goddamn well EM doesn't have chance in hell of beating PBF. So you come up with dumb **** like this as a way to defect form the real topic at hand here. Stop with the comedy relief and give a real ****ysis or **** off. Or you're just the typical smart ass troll who doesn't know **** about boxing and when asked to give a breakdown runs away deflect try or try to be funny.

    You didn't own anything PBF > EM that's the crux of my argument at 130 and for the whole career refute my point or log off.:hi: I don't want to here sparring stories they don't mean **** to me or anyone with credibility. EM was done at 30 and he has almost a dozen loses and for every loss there's an excuse familiar patter right? Just because he went 1-2 against MAB and 1-2 against Pac and had tough guy personality doesn't mean **** in the ring skills pay the bills the rest walks. He was mediocre against the elite, it gives me no confidence that he would do anything against the best fighter he would have ever fought in PBF but get a boxing lesson and melt down.:deal

    He's also a cheat something that you love to leave out. In fact he was a weight drainer shrinking himself down to pick on smaller guys and when he finally stopped fighting midgets he got exposed. PBF is light years the boxer EM is almost 40 and on top of the game while one the other hand EM was done at 30 fat and sitting at home wishing he had the career and the talent of a PBF.:hi:
     
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