It says a lot about the people asking Floyd to move up

Just because he calls himself the TBE doesn't mean he is, and yes it's ridiculous to expect a almost 40 yr old faded boxer to do this just like it's ridiculous to ask GGG to do the same.

 

Thankyou!

 

Once again you're babbling about something I never said.

I know you think the whole world revolves around Floyd but my comment was about Pac, not Floyd.

Comprehension skills = 0

 

Why can't you reference other fighters accomplishments if Floyd or anyone else is calling him TBE? If you want to be called the best ever, be prepared to be compared to the best ever. (or in this case RJJ and Pac)

What's wrong with that?

 

Duran was 38 when he stepped into the ring with Barkley. And this was after Barkley had just KO'd Hearns, one of the best P4P punchers of all time.

 

Do you fail to realize this is the exact same logic you refused to acknowledge on the corresponding GGG thread?

GGG at the age of 18 was 140 lbs as an amateur.
Canelo at the age of 18 was 147 lbs as a pro.

GGG at the age of 18 was 140 lbs as an amateur.
Cotto at the age of 18 was 140 lbs as an amateur.

Yes, people's bodies mature differently and at different times. But you can't completely disregard this logic in the case of 1 fighter and then turn around and use it in favor of another fighter.

 

RJJ weighted about 193 when he fought the 222 Ruiz, so give me a break about filling out. It's about having a warriors mentality and about daring to take the risk, because that's what the true greats do, they are willing to risk defeat to become legends. Now that said, RJJ hand picked Ruiz, just as Mayweather hand picks many of his opponents. It wasn't like he was prepared to step into the ring with Lewis, or even a shot version of Tyson.

But he did do this:

Jones became the first former middleweight world titlist in 106 years to win a heavyweight world title (Bob Fitzsimmons, 1897).

 

True greats take on challenges. We have weight divisions for a reason though.

And 193 definitely isn't 160.

 

I know 193 isn't 160 everybody can do a little math (perhaps with the exception of PP), but what does that even mean?

 

It means that Roy did fill out. He wasn't a natural middleweight anymore by the time he fought Ruiz.

 

No he fought most of his career as a lightheavyweight, but he certainly wasn't a heavyweight when he fought him either. If anything he was a cruiser weight.

 

he can always face Thurman. I got no issues with that.

 

Which gets back to my point. Some guys fill out and move up in weight not out of choice, but necessity. Jones didn't leave middleweight for challenges. His body made the decision for him.

 

Or another way of looking at it is 193 isn't 222, which is what I believe Ruiz weighed for that fight.

 

Any my point is he left lightheavy for a challenge, skipped Cruiserweight all together and fought a heavyweight, and not just any heavyweight, a titlist. The fact he only weighed 193 tells us he choose to fighter much bigger guys and knew he would have a significant size disadvantage.