Khan has speed and nothing else

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  1. SuperBoxer

    SuperBoxer New Member Full Member

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    -That's because he was drained at LW & LWW, well below his natural weight. WW is closer to his natural weight.
    -Khan has good defensive skills under Virgil Hunter.
    -He also has good ring IQ under Virgil Hunter.
    -Khan has a 58% KO ratio. That would not be possible if he had no power.
    -He has good technical skills under Virgil Hunter.

    Khan has won 6 world title fights (Kotelnik, Salita, Malignaggi, Maidana, McCloskey, Judah).

    Khan has defeated 8 world champions (Barrera, Kotelnik, Malignaggi, Maidana, Judah, Diaz, Collazo, Alexander).

    Under Virgil Hunter, Khan also has a great jab, high punch accuracy, long reach, tall height, great control of range, good foot-work from the back-foot, good technical skills, good defensive skills, and good ring IQ.
     
  2. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    So much no in this post

    Lol ydksab
     
  3. thurmanthegoat1

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    yeh we know
     
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  5. lolercakes

    lolercakes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Khan is the future p4p #1 deal with it haters!
     
  6. N17

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    Here we go again. I'm not going way back to Limond, Prescott.... We could go way back to give examples of lack of ring IQ and other flaws but it gets boring.

    Khan.... Beaten by Peterson, Battered by Danny Garcia, Decked and given nightmares by Julio Diaz. So The truth is Khan couldn't clean up at 140 and was never number 1 in the division so he moved up to WW.

    Khans best win in 4 years is Alexander and at WW at this present time is a good win but not a great win.
    Khan is so fragile they won't risk him against Bradley, Brook or any other genuine top 10 WW.
    That's why you are going to watch him beat up Algieri a LWW coming off a 6 knock down beating that ended with almost comical scorecards and the Khan fans will be loving it, all things considered it is a truly pathetic opponent.

    Khan is fast with his hands but has virtually no ring IQ, his footwork reasonably fast but is basic, has little KO power and his chin is more than suspect.

    Khan fans are without doubt the most delusional of all boxing fans.
     
  7. critix

    critix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    devon alexander, maidana, zab judah, barrera, etc. must be totally ****ty fighters then
     
  8. Solarse

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    I think Brook fans are a close second
     
  9. beachie17

    beachie17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Correction 2 time champion, accidently pressed 3 instead of 2 and I didn't realise.
     
  10. N17

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    I would have them neck and neck :lol:
     
  11. SuperBoxer

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    Alexander is the only boxer to ever completely shut out Maidana, winning every round against him, something which even Mayweather couldn't do in two fights. And yet Khan completely shut out Alexander, winning every round against him. That's more than a good win.

    You think feather-fisted Bradley is a risk to Khan? Even Bradley doesn't believe that, hence why he ducked Khan.

    The likes of Paulie Malignaggi, Zab Judah and Devon Alexander are known for their ring IQ, yet Khan completely shut them out, winning every round against them, which takes ring IQ, not to mention the fact that Khan has never been outboxed on points before. Against Alexander, Khan was fighting from the back-foot, quickly moving in and out of range after throwing punches, and controlling the range with his footwork, which makes his footwork anything but basic. His KO rate is 58%, which takes more than a little KO power. The only thing suspect might be his chin, but even that hasn't been proven yet at WW.
     
  12. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Khan's ring IQ is an interesting subject.

    Khan, as he has sown under Hunter, can box to a game plan. This requires some intelligence but is probably more to do with discipline; not straying from the game plan that your trainer has set.

    According to people who have trained him, Khan is a quick learner so this does show some intelligence, but if you can't apply these new skills then picking up techniques quickly is probably more down to a ' natural ability', for want of a better phrase, rather than good IQ.

    In my opinion, Khan's main ring IQ problems are that, in a fight, he continuously makes the same mistakes round after round and doesn't adapt well if things aren't going his way.

    Ultimately, I think Khan is a quick learner who gets by on great athleticism and decent skills, but he doesn't always know when to apply certain techniques and he can't adapt quick enough in a tough fight.

    This is why I think Mayweather beats him. I imagine it would be like the Mayweather v Judah fight; Khan's speed gives Floyd trouble early, but after Floyd gets a read on him and starts timing him better, Floyd will take over and Khan won't have any answers.
     
  13. N17

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    What has Maidana got to do with Alexander being Khans best win in 4 years? I said it was a good win but not a great win.

    Are we going down that road of "he beat him so...." Khan beat Alexander, Porter beat Alexander, Brook beat Porter, so what, means nothing.

    Anyway, Alexander was just on the outside of the top 10 when he fought Khan, I didn't even mention it at first but Alexander has a very suspect temperament anyway, go watch the end of the Bradley fight.

    Khan refused to fight Brook and that's a fact. Bradley and the IBF confirmed Khan refused that fight too, He chose Algieri on Spike TV. You can try no spin it any way you like the fact is Khan chose Algieri over those two so who is really ducking who?

    As for ring IQ, I refuse to accept he has much, for example Garcia threw the same punch over and over again, got closer and closer and Khan still didn't adjust, jumped in, chin in the air and was knocked out.
    I think you are confusing discipline and what people call ring IQ, having discipline and sticking to a game plan devised by a trainer is not ring IQ.

    As for his power, it really depends on the opposition. I refuse to accept he has much power. And now he is at WW that will be even clearer to see.
    That's if he stops fighting LWW's.

    And you pretty much summed up his chin and the whole situation when you said his chin hasn't been tested at WW yet, very true because he is pretty much refusing to fight a genuine top 10 WW.
     
  14. Akxtinguish

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    Lots of delusional comments here.

    Fully agree with OP, Khan has speed and nothing else. He isn't accurate, his defence is terrible and his footwork is very limited. He doesn't have power either - hasn't had a stoppage in years despite fighting guys who had already been stopped up to 5 times before facing him.

    I give him credit for two decent wins - Maidana and Alexander.

    The rest of his fights were a collective joke. The feather-fisted lightweight Julio Diaz put him on his bum, Collazo was way over the hill, people crediting the Barrera win probably don't remember that the 35 year old got cut from a headbutt in the first round and the fight was only stopped after 5 rounds so that Khan could be credited with the win (if they stopped it in the first then it would have been a no-contest). In fact, the fact that it came from a headbutt should have made it NC anyway.

    The part-timer Limond had Khan out for over 10 seconds, Prescott knocked him out with a jab (Prescott lost half of his fights since then and has only stopped 2 opponents in 14 bouts).

    Weak resume littered with light punchers, fighters from lower weight divisions and previous champions who are well past their prime, few of whom Khan was able to bet convincingly and some of whom either knocked him down or knocked him spark out.

    Pathetic.
     
  15. N17

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    I agree :yep

    You must be another one of those millions of Khan fans they keep telling me he has? :lol:
    Because I still haven't found many yet, I'm still looking.