I have to keep it real!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BlizzyBlizz, May 16, 2015.


  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    You can't compare what Quillin did to Guerrero 6 years ago, to what Lemieux did to him a year ago. Quillin wasn't even half as good as he is now. As for the Rosado fight you need to take in count that he was coming off 3 losses (exluding the J'leon love one), where he got cut badly in each one of them. David didn't prove anything to me in taht fight. He beat the **** out of a Rosado who was cut early. Also when did I underrate BJS? I just said he's unproven, be specific on what I said to underrate him.

    Not a rightful draw to me. Had Quillin clearly winning, as you had Cunningham clearly beating Glaskov. You can't have it both ways. It's just opinion, I can respect your call for the Cunningham/Glaskov so learn to respect mine. It was a very clear Quillin win for me becuase I couldn't score it a draw, or a w for Lee.
     
  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Saunders? LOL he is a Glass Jawed joke and would get obliterated not only by GGG but any decent Middleweigt. Send that Glass Jawed ***** over to America and let him fight. He will be going home with his Chin in a box in a million shards.
     
  3. CST80

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    Quillin fought him the year before not 6 years before.:huh
     
  4. ellerbe

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    Oh woops, you're right, got that mixed up, but he stopped him either way. I don't remember much about that fight, so I'll have to rewatch it to compare the fight. But my point for Rosado stands.
     
  5. CST80

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    You have 0 evidence Saunders has a Glass Jaw, its seems pretty damn solid to me, Ryder, Eubank and O'Sullivan are big punchers.
     
  6. drenlou

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    hell noo... arre you satisfied with Mayweather??? youre acting like a real fanboy right now:patsch..@ :lol: at you bringing up vera doe CST>>>>Really:-(
     
  7. CST80

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    Quillin dropped him4 times 2 in the second and 2 in the seventh, and the stoppage was not that great.
    Lemieux was literally killing him he took him out in 2 and a half rounds, dropped him 3 times and ripped his eyebrow off his face and he was bleeding profusely. it was incredibly impressive.
     
  8. ellerbe

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    Monroe is decent no doubt, but don't make it out as he's really somethign special. I called it before the fight that this would be extremely easy for GGG and he wouldn't prove much. A lot of people said Monroe would take him to 12, and that he's super slick, but beating undefeated guys that fought nobodies, and an old Vera doesn't prove how slick you really are. He needed to get in there with decent names to prove that. Truth is Monroe while decent, isn't that good of a win.

    Floyd decisions GGG at 152-154 though. I'd bet big bucks on that. Comparing Monroe to Floyd is like comparing a bench player to Jordan, or some nobody baseball player to Babe Ruth.
     
  9. ellerbe

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    Nobody is the same after getting stopped though. If Lemieux did it first he'd get more credit from me, but again I really don't remember much about that fight. I looked up the card and it was on the Zab/Garcia fight which was overall a ****ty card, but I might rewatch it. Never thought highly of Guerrero. I remember the Lemieux/Guerrero fight quite vividly since I remember people started hyping him up again after that, but I'll need to watch the Quillin/Guerrero fight to determine myself if the stoppage wasn't taht great.
     
  10. CST80

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    GGG feasts on fighters like Mayweather haven't you caught onto that, if you stay on the ropes you're a dead man, the only way to beat GGG is to push him back which is damn near impossible.

    I don't rate Vera very highly but I do rate Brandon Adams pretty highly and Kopylenko was damn good and coming off of a 9 match KO streak.
     
  11. CST80

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    Well Grady frigging Brewer stopped Guerrero in 4 before Quillin got to him and it still took him 7.
    You're right that was a cr*p card.
     
  12. ellerbe

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    Who did either of those guys beat though? Out of the 9 mathc ko streak how many of those guys had losing records, one even had 0 wins.
     
  13. drenlou

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    I disagree.... you beat GGG by outboxing him, not fighting in front of him....look at the pattern..... every Ko puncher GGG fights is stationary, evry mover GGG fights has a low Ko pct.... its not hard to understand that movers cause GGG fits....Dirrell beat him in the amatuers imo.... and Lara possibly beats him, he just has to get the oppurtunity to fight him.... i mean to you Lara should be easy work right??
     
  14. Rico Spadafora

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    That is awful domestic competition. Send him over here and he will get brutally KOed and sent back in a casket.
     
  15. ellerbe

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    I didn't watch that fight, but that proves my point more kind of, getting stopped twice is worse than getting stopped once. Grady would get more credit to me than Quillin, but at the end of the day Guerrero isn't that great of a win for any of them. It depends on how Grady beat Guerrero though. If he was losing all rounds, and got the kncok out in the end then I'd have to re-evaluate that.