Did Tyson have a weak pain threshold??

Like I said. Lewis lost to Rahman no bones about, if you don't think that his being no acclimatised to the altitude had nothing to do with it than fine, I'm okay with that too. Boxings a bottom line business and the bottom line is Lewis lost.

 

In the peabrained mind of yours I'm pretty sure Tyson's undefeated, as is Vitali.

 

Why is it in your world excuses are justified for chinny lewi but unacceptably for Tyson? No one is saying rahman was a better fighter than chinny lewi not that lewi came into the fight well prepared and in the best possible shape but we are just highlighting your hypocricy and double standards when it comes to Tyson.

 

Goes to show how good Tyson was that he is held to some ridiculous standard that other fighters aren't, if he was a nobody or a bum, we wouldn't be talking about him..but they will use inane logic like ''Lewis beats Tyson at any point blah blah'' but get their thongs in a wad when folks say ''Tyson at his peak was a ATG talent'' or anything pro Tyson for that matter..you can see the hypocrisy in the arguments used on him that makes zero sense or has any rationale behind it except their own blind hate...but the further we get removed from his retirement the more appreciation he will gain and that will drive the detractors up the wall..

 

Didn't you just finished reading that I said boxing is a bottom line business and the bottom line is Lewis lost. How does that square with all the **** you just wrote?

 

Tyson at his best was H2h a top 5-6 fighter, I have no problem saying that. The main problem with Tyson was that his peak was relatively short. And I've acknowledged that Tyson can take a hell of a punch and even a beating before getting KO'd. But back to the bottom line, which is a KO loss is a KO loss, doesn't really matter how many punches it took to do it. In fact one could argue that the more it took, the more outclassed you were prior to getting KO'd.

 

It can also be argued atleast he wen't down fighting and made the other person literally kill him to get him. Secondly Lewis the title for how long? 3-4 years? Tyson had it for the same time period no?

 

But Tyson did more in that relatively short prime than most guys do in their whole career..You judge a fighter at their absolute best..and if we are being real Lewis prime years 99-02 was the same as Tysons...he just wasn't as consistent or dominant as Tyson was in his prime years..its a reason he was rated p4p #1 fighter in the world two years in a row..unheard of for a heavyweight..Lewis as good as he was never did that....and you know thats b.s...Getting outclassed is one thing.. getting laid flat with one punch is something else entirely..but its all subjective..:good

 

How many prime fighters did Lewi face during his prime years?

Holyfield (shot)
Morrison (shot)
Mercer (shot)
Tyson (shot)
Tua (not good enough)

During his prime he got absolutely starched like a clueless little girl from C-level fighters in Mcall and Rahman. People mock Tyson for Douglas but Lewi a free pass for Mccall and Rahman. It doesn't matter whether he won rematches, he should not have lost to them in the first place, a loss to such C level fighters should not even be on your record and especially not with one punch to the face. Lewi and his cunning nut huggers who hide behind words then keep passing phrases "Anyone in the heavy weight division can end things with one punch to face", Lol no Lol no :rofl ie Tyson and Holyfield prove otherwise.

The only serious challenger who gives him a heck of a fight and is finally not shot Vitali, he refuses to give him a rematch hiding behind Mummy, Wify and using all sorts of legal excuses that he isn't obligated to give him a rematch totally unwarrior like.

People accuse Tyson of fighting bums and wash ups but don't remember that Lewi fought more or less the same opponenets and all of them later after Tyson fought better versions of them and cleaned them out.

Lewi was a very skilled fighter but i am sorry, i find it hypocritical when people point wholes on Tyson's, Holyfield's resume but don't do the same for Lewi. In my books, someone who cannot take one solid punch to the face is going to be murdered in the more tougher eras of Boxing i.e. from 50's to 80's.

 

I was watching a youtube video where they discussed Tyson's status in Boxing history and i agreed with it. They concluded that while he cannot be regarded as a top 5 HOF because he didn't have the resume at the end of his career to justify it but he definately had the talent/ability to be the best boxer ever compared to everyone else and unfortunately he blew it.

 

I think that the beatings taken from Buster Douglas, Lennox Lewis and to a lesser extent Evander Holyfield refute the notion that Tyson had a "weak pain threshold".

 

Yeah i pretty much agree he isn't Top 5 but he is def for sure Top 10, and its a ridiculous notion to say he is a fringe top 10 fighter..when you add in his box office, his prime years and the accomplishments.. he did a lot more than some of the other fighters placed ahead of him and alot of this hate is revisionist history to downplay how good he was.

 

Generally speaking it is you pathetic Tyson fanboys that don't want his post prison career brought up, but I'm happy to go along with the fact he was losing to a quality fighter like Botha.

As for your lying garbage with regard to Douglas getting a long count in round 8 and Tyson being cheated. People can either believe an idiot like you, or watch this clip and make their own minds up.

[url]https://youtu.be/gHcbFUTIslI[/url]

 

I have watched many fights and in most of the fights the ref is suppossed to start counting immediately when the fighter goes down, no delays. The ref in Douglas case not only started counting slow i.e. a full 4-5 seconds after douglas went down but also then counted slowly as well.

Watch the Botha knock down and notice how the ref immediately starts the count quickly when Botha lands down. The ref immediately starts the count and his first shout is "5". That is what should have been done.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHK9iBthh7U[/url]

As far as your Youtube video is concerned, two can play the same game.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlqKmNwbXOw[/url]

Now go ahead and start making excuses "Douglas was watching and listening to the ref, Douglas could have gotten up earlier" blah blah like Tyson haters.

 

I couldn't care a toss about Botha's or anyone else's fights.

That clip I posted shows referee Meyran starting both counts at EXACTLY the same times when the fighters were down, at EXACTLY the same pace, for EXACTLY the same length of time. Douglas beat the count, Tyson didn't.

Congratulations. You must be some serious fan boy to be publicly ridiculed for being both blind AND stupid.

Your clip is worthless nonsense because it is just another idiot Tyson fan boy like you pi ssing and whining about Tyson losing. That is NOT the same as a split screen showing of BOTH counts in the fight simultaneously.