Dempsey vDon Co^kell?

Cokkell appears on film to be quite a bit more elusive than Willard. Not sure Jack would be able to land that telegraphed left hook from the hip he landed on Willard. Also, the Toledo Dempsey had shot his wad in the first. Willard, tho too damaged to last the distance, did better work over the rest of the fight as Jack huffed and puffed.

If Cokkell survives the first (which is not out of the question as he survived 8 rounds against Marciano) things could get awfully interesting.

 

He did have some skill. But a half dozen guys before the Rock were able to stop him.

Maybe he was just having a good night... (a "good night" I would rather not have).

 

Or Marciano was having a bad one, or both.

Point is if Don can get past round 1, he could conceivably make it till the 9th or the end vs Dempsey.

The man could take a beating.

 

Yes, but guys, primarily middleweights, stopped him before Marciano did.

 

If you read my post I said I couldn't see Levi Billips going the full route with Lennox Lewis but he did, I could not also see Kockel going as long as he did with Marciano but he did. I could Meehan beating Langford but he did. The Kockel that fought Marciano deserves credit like the Meehan that beat and drew with Dempsey.

I still think Marciano's pressure and awkward punches would take there toll on the 5'9 Meehan and have a different style of pressure for Gibbons but nothing is written in stone.

The Kockel that fought Marciano was determined and tough and while he took an awful beating he acquitted himself with honor and not as easy as I would think to stop

 

funny thing about boxing, I remember former middleweight contender Vicente Rondon as a middleweight he was KO'd by Jose Gonzales and Bennie Briscoe, he later won the light heavyweight title and was KO'd in 2 rds in a unification fight with Bob Foster, then he moved up to heavyweight and went the distance with punching legend 39-2 Earnie Shavers and 40-5-2 Jose Urtain ....who would think

 

funny thing about boxing, I remember former middleweight contender Vicente Rondon as a middleweight he was KO'd by Jose Gonzales and Bennie Briscoe, he later won the light heavyweight title and was KO'd in 2 rds in a unification fight with Bob Foster, then he moved up to heavyweight and went the distance with premier punching legend 39-2 Earnie Shavers and 40-5-2 Jose Urtain ....who would think

 

Dempsey by early round KO, not because he was better than Marciano or even a harder puncher but because he was a faster starter. Boxing is all about styles and Jack had the right style to end this faster than Rocky did. Plus he had a much longer reach and faster hands and feet than Rocky did and he would be unloading his weapons right from the opening bell on Don and wouldn't stop until Don dropped, which would be around the 2nd or 3rd round.

 

If the thread starter's point is to degrade Marciano ( again ) he should take note that Dempsey had his share of problems vs. fleshy fighters too. In fact he lost to one.

I could see a Cowboy Luttrell type of ending here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?

v=SCQ0eqQTL74

I think you’re too dim witted to read between the lines. When I say I see a Cowboy Luttrell ending, that's me saying Dempsey abuses C0ckell.

DUH.

For a Dempsey fan you have some double standards. He avoided Wills, and did not fight Greb.

Yet you defend Jack Johnson for not meeting Langford, Jeanette, and McVey. And you defend Joe Louis for only selecting 2 black me for his 26 title defenses.

Perhaps a working theory is you scream racism toward white fighters, not giving black fighters a shots , but ignore it when it comes to black fighters using the color line or when your favorite does it.

 

And Joe Dundee at 144 lbs. stopped Mickey Walker in 8,

which Jack Sharkey and Paulino Uzcudun were unable to do,

and Schmeling also was only able to do in 8 rounds,

and this proves what?

Max Schmeling didn't punch harder than Dundee?

Sharkey and Uzcudun didn't punch as hard as Dundee? (who had 25 KO's in 130 fights)