Robert Garcia: Why is Kell Brook ducking Rios?

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  1. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rios is not relevant enough at welter to be duckable.
     
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  2. ellerbe

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    Yet Rios has fought better comp at welter than brook :lol:. If he's not relevant enough why did Brook call him out? Is he calling out a cherry pick, or is he ducking a guy that he called out who was the only one available in May?
     
    ellerbe, May 20, 2015
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  3. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And Rios has lost to that better competition. Look I'd like Brook to take on a better opponent but insisting Rios would have been so much better strikes me as odd since he's never done anything of note above 135.
     
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  4. CST80

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    For the record as one of Kell Brook bigger supporters on the site..........................I think Rios might beat him if they fought.
     
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  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    How has he lost? He fought Chaves, Alvarado, and Pac. He won 2, and lost to one. Get your facts straight before embarrassing yourself.
     
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  6. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No duh, but Pacquiao is the only one who would constitute better competition than what Brook has faced. Rios' gift DQ against a not very good Chaves hardly means anything, nor does his series with Alvarado.
     
    purephase, May 20, 2015
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  7. ellerbe

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    What? Lmfao, Chaves and Alvarado are far better than Gavin, JoJo Dan, and Senchenko.
     
    ellerbe, May 20, 2015
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  8. purephase

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    The Porter win destroys all those by a mile, and the Senchenko win is of similar quality. Seriously, we're propping up Rios' credentials at welter by citing wins over guys who have accomplished even less at the weight?
     
    purephase, May 20, 2015
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  9. ellerbe

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    We're talking about who has fought better competition here at ww, not who has the better resume. And rios clearly has fought the better competition. I know it's hard for you but try keeping up. Obviously Porter is a better win than a DQ against Chaves, and an Alvarado that went through wars.
     
    ellerbe, May 20, 2015
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  10. purephase

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    You're the one who needs to keep up. You said Rios fought better competition at welter, I said Rios lost to the one guy who constituted better competition, and now you appear to agree with that despite your cute efforts at correcting me about his resume. The point remains Rios has actually accomplished jack squat above 135, which again supports my position that he's not a duckable fighter.
     
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  11. ellerbe

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    No, I clearly said Chaves and Alvarado make up for better competition than anyone besides Porter on Brook's resume. Please, try keeping up man, you can't be this slow, or are you just having a hard time being proven wrong? Let me repeat myself slowly, Brook has one win at WW that's better than Rios, but Rios has 2 wins that are better than any of his other opponents. And you can't even compare Pacquiao to Porter, Brook would have got schooled just as bad. Rios has fought much better competition than Brook let alone Gavin, his competiton is a million times better than Gavin. Also he hasn't accomplished jack squat above 140? what about taking Alvarado's 0? The same Alvarado that beat Herrera, jesus you're embarrassing yourself.
     
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  12. CST80

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    Chaves and Alvarado are better than most of Kell's comp excluding Porter. FACT
     
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  13. ellerbe

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    :deal exactly. I had Chaves winning that fight, but after watching him poke his eye on replay it's pretty clear that dude is a dirty **** that deserved to get dqed.
     
    ellerbe, May 20, 2015
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  14. ellerbe

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    oh, and the senchenko win isn't close to being at similar quality. the guy was stopped by Paulie Malinaggi, anyone that's been stopped by Paulie is automatically deemed a non-credible opponent after. If Paulie can cut you up, then well damn anyone that's half decent can.
     
    ellerbe, May 20, 2015
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  15. CST80

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    Exactly, I've said that from day 1 Chaves fought an incredibly scared and dirty ass fight because he was terrified of Brandon's power and was willing to do anything to avoid it.
     
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