Robert Garcia: Why is Kell Brook ducking Rios?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ellerbe, May 20, 2015.


  1. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And I reject that a gift DQ over Chaves in a fight Rios was losing and a win over a shot to bits Alvarado make for better wins than Brooks' over Senchenko for instance. Seriously, citing the Chaves fight as evidence of Rios' quality at welter would be like citing the Abril fight as evidence of his quality at lightweight.

    Again, Rios' credentials at 147 are trash, and Brooks' non-Porter wins at the weight are far more comparable to Rios' wins than any of Rios' are to the Porter win. BTW, what were Chaves and Alvarado's notable accomplishments at 147 that made these such high quality victories for "Bam Bam?"

    No one was doing that genius. It's quite amusing to read you failing to grasp what's being discussed while attacking things no one has said or even come close to saying.

    Great, you think he's better than Gavin. The fact remains Rios' resume at the weight is so thin that he nevertheless is in no position to ever be labeled as being ducked.

    :shock: Wait, he beat The Mike Alvarado? Whopdee doo, I had Herrera losing to Provodnikov and Dallas Jr before he even fought Alvarado, and Karim Mayfield beat him even more easily shortly thereafter. Aside from that, his lone notable accomplishment was defeating a Prescott who gassed just like he always did.
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jesus christ you're slow and your boxing knowledge seems very limited. I guess I'll have to repeat alot of things. Abril completely schooled Rios, Rios/Chaves although I ahd Chaves clearly winning was actually competitive, Rios was actually landing on Chaves, and their punch stats were extremely close. You call Alvarado shot to pieces, but not a Senchenko that was stopped by none other than Paulie Malinaggi :rofl:rofl, you're a joke.

    Chaves drew with Bradley, was fighting evenly with Thurman. Alvarado at least fought a p4p though he lost, but he clearly hasn't done much at WW. His overall career is quite impressive though and much better than anyone Brook has fought besides Porter, and that's not even that far off.

    You're claiming Rios is basically irrelevant at 147, but he's fought overall better comp than Brook whether he lost 1 out of 3, not all "the better comp" like you claimed. Chaves and Alvarado are indeed better comp.

    If Rios's resume at 147 is so thin why did Brook call him out? I answered all your questions so try answering mine. If you call someone out and decide to fight someone else even when they're available that's considered a duck no matter who it is, and Rios happens to have a good resume to back it up.

    You had Herrera losing, ok cool, but most people had Herrera beating Prov, and Dallas jr, just because you thoguht that doesn't mean he actually lost. Herrera has beat DSG, Prov, Dallas Jr, and Perez. If you don't consider that a good win you're an absolute moron.

    Keep getting schooled sonny :hi:.
     
  3. freddieMaize

    freddieMaize Active Member Full Member

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    Their ego will not let them agree with the truth. Let it go mate.
     
  4. critix

    critix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    as one of his critics i would say it's 60/40 for brok
     
  5. billymarc

    billymarc New Member Full Member

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    Its not just a one fight card is it :patsch
     
  6. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    What a shock ellerbe the alt in a thread full of inane drivel about Brook who ruined his llife and left his last alt untenable. Need proof, take a look at ellerbe's first ever post under his current alter ego:

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    Not convinced? Here is his third:

    Oh dear. ellerbe critcizes Brook for fighting mando's but praises Wilder for taking voluntaries against Eric Molina because Wilder is the same colour as him.
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  7. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A gift DQ in a fight you're losing does about as for your resume as a robbery decision win.

    Are you actually familiar with the nature of the stoppage? If not spare me any drivel about your boxing knowledge.

    Don't see any wins in there. LOL @ citing the BS Bradley decision though.

    It's pretty far off in terms of WW though.
    Again, Chaves and Alvarado are far closer to the level of the unimpressive wins you're citing for Brooks than they are to Porter.
    Beats me. Maybe the fact that the promoter he's with is one of the biggest pains to work with in the entire sport. But Robert Garcia is talking tough and you seem to be under the delusion that Rios has a decent resume so it's CLEARLY a duck
    No most people who saw them had Herrera losing both those fights. Check the RBRs here or anywhere else since I'm quite certain you've never seen the Dallas fight and probably haven't even seen the Provodnikov one either. And if you want to play the official results card, Herrera officially lost to Garcia so you've just removed his biggest claim to fame.
     
  8. keenly

    keenly Active Member Full Member

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    Brook will EASILY beat that bum Rios.
     
  9. Work The Jab

    Work The Jab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Brook wants to fight the best.
    Its his promoter eddie hearn who is potentially tarnishing his reputation.
     
  10. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Brook would toy with Rios.

    He cried after his loss to Manny.
    I hope Garcia brings his boy some kleenex. Its going to be emotional.
     
  11. BillyWhizz

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    :lol:
     
  12. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stylistically. Rios is tailor made for Brook.

    If Rios was fast he would stand a chance.
    He's not, so his lack of head movement and his one dimensional plodding forward into beautiful counters all night won't bode well for his chances in this fight.

    Brook by UD or TKO after Rios face swells up.
     
  13. Super Hans

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  14. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    then i looked up his record and the only one he's beat with a name is alvarado. C-level alvarado. no joke. he was one of Pac's best wins
     
  15. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rios is a joke fight in itself, fighting Gavin is unreal for a champion