Will Froch do to GGG what he did to Bute?

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  1. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    True and I can see where you are coming from but savage power is an equalizer for all that ask Jack Dempsey or Mike Tyson. And GGG's footwork is way better than Froch's also.
     
  2. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow chill. I twisted the Pavlik and Froch fights in my mind. It was long time ago and those white boys all look alike. That said Froch was badly hurt in the 3rd round. You might be right about the weight tho.
     
  3. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    GGG is an immensely experienced boxer, even more so than Froch

    He spars with light heavys

    His chin is absolute granite

    So is Carls

    This will be NOTHING like the Bute masscare
     
  4. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What are you talking about? You're literally making my point. Albeit while making about 100 more glaring errors. But yes, Zab got knocked out by Kosta who, like GGG, had elite timing and accuracy but not fast hands. This is exactly what I'm saying...

    The first time RJJ met a boxer he lost badly?? Hahahahahahahah, someone tell B Hop and smack in his prime James Toney they aren't boxers now.

    GGG does not have fast hands but it doesn't matter. Because, like Kosta, he is an elite boxer with elite timing and accuracy and devastating power. So ya, he'll best Froch and he can beat a lot of other guys who (unlike Carl) have faster hands than him.

    And your 3rd point... You said arguably, but it wast arguable. It was irrefutable that rosado and Stevens were never his 2 best opponents at the time he faced them. They were both worse than the guy GGG had fought IMMEDIATELY PRIOR to taking them on. The Murray fight is an aberration when viewed in GGG's larger jab/power lunch trend. He throws 15 more punches/round than the middleweight average. 4 more power punches and 11 more jabs per round!!!

    GGG is my favorite boxer! Just stop being wrong about what he's good at!!!
     
  5. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your 1st point
    For some reason you're trying to insinuate GGG doesn't have hand-speed. Averaging 40+ punches per/round with acc of higher than 30% in both jabs and power punches tells a different story.
    When people say "timing" to me in boxing, its like marquez's 10 punches a rd with a high % acc rate.
    GGG throws too many punches to be merely a "perfect timing" type of guy. He's throwing too many punches per round.
    If you can't get that into your skull already, I'm truly sorry for your learning difficulties.

    Your 2nd point
    Green Hopkins? He was poor back than. Toney was overrated.
    Yes, the first boxer RJJ met, he got knocked the hell out.
    Tarver.
     
  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :yep
     
  7. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see you didn't have much interest in the 3rd point.

    RJJ was 35 years old and coming back from HW when he fought Tarver, and he had just beaten Tarver already... So even if you want to be an idiot and dismiss the Toney and B Hop schooling, let alone the Virgil Hill brutalizing and say that Tarver was the first real boxer he faced... He still beat Tarver the 1st time he faced him...

    Activity and hand speed have nothing to do with one another. You are a novice.
     
  8. knotty150

    knotty150 Active Member Full Member

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    Froch vs GGG could be an absolute classic.

    Personally, I'd favor Froch to win. Unlike other weight classes in the sport, the jump from 160 to 168 is enormous. The top guys at 168 have been campaigning there for the entirety of their careers and are supremely conditioned to the weight. GGG has proven himself to be an absolute beast at MW but, if you were to take each and every one of GGG's opponents and put them in against Froch at 168, I'm fairly certain Froch would do something similar to all of them.

    Before he fights Froch, GGG should be fighting the likes of Bika, Abraham, Steiglitz etc at 168.
     
  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    The activity = hand speed comparisons are odd to say the least! :lol:

    In any case, GGG and Froch have similar hand speed and compatible foot speed. GGG has better technique, though, both at delivering shots and at movement and positioning.

    Won't help him against a warrior like The Cobra, though.

    :smoke
     
  10. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's particularly odd when you note that earlier he made a point about how Khan has the fastest hands in the game but doesn't throw a lot... I think he's going to make me lose my mind.

    Agree with your GGG/Froch comparisons except I'm taking GGG and I feel quite confident in it. He's got almost no chance against SOG though if that's next...
     
  11. R6_Ninja

    R6_Ninja Member Full Member

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    Ggg is a better boxer all round than froch. The only question is whether he carries that power up to 168 with him?

    The only advantages I see for Carl are reach and experience

    I'm trying to think of someone Froch has fought who has power comparable to golovkin?
     
  12. R6_Ninja

    R6_Ninja Member Full Member

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    The guy is an idiot, his posts on this page made my head hurt
     
  13. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wish I thought he was trolling... But I'm pretty sure he's completely serious.
     
  14. madpuppy

    madpuppy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What fight was he stopped in his tracks?
     
  15. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Froch stops him.

    G-Cube's defense is too leaky, and his power won't be what it is at 168, and that's why he isn't moving up anytime soon.