Who would do better against the 200lb + Heavyweights post 1960 R Marciano or A Moore

The only fly in the ointment here is that the best heavyweights that Rocky kod were not prime.

 

The whole round and round is based on one simple fact and that is hardcore Rocky guys refuse to accept his accomplishments in perspective to realities .. age and wear and tear of opposition does not matter, not just one fighter but opposition as a whole, all had one more great fight left in them and Rocky destroyed what was left, beating up light heavyweights and small cruiser weights does not matter, it goes on and on and it is silly. The man should be gaged on the significant accomplishments and off a mythological pedestal .. any other way of looking at him or those who support him tribally opposed to objectively is not to be taken seriously ..

 

I won't lie to you, I tend to be much more interested in where a fighters opponents were rated in the division, than how old/big they were.

It might be surprising that they were rated where they were, in some cases.

 

As opposed to a "prime" Bob Baker?

:roll:

Marciano beat all-time great heavyweights (regardless). Moore did not.

If you can knock out Louis, Charles and Walcott, you'll do fine against Folley, Machen, Patterson, Ellis, Quarry, Spencer, Martin, Chuvalo, Williams ... styles be damned.

I'd take Ali and Liston to beat him straight up.

 

Yeah, provided ALL of them were at least 38 years old or Light Heavies at the time of fighting.

 

Where they were rated is dependant on who was about don't you think? ie How deep was the quality at the time? When I see men 40 + rated in a division I think it isn't very deep. Tony Thompson is a case in point.

 

I don't accept that any of the heavyweights
Marciano beat were great when he beat them .
I'll go further, I firmly believe that of Marciano's opponents only Joe Louis was a great heavyweight and that when he met Rocky he was well past his best, and therefore no longer great

 

Holmes was only momentarily rated in the 90's.
How many past prime light heavyweights were rated in the 90's

 

Archie Moore got knocked out by every heavyweight champ he fought.

Rocky Marciano knocked out every heavyweight champ he fought ... in addition to knocking out Archie Moore.

Archie Moore couldn't beat a past, current or future heavyweight champ AND Archie Moore couldn't beat Marciano.

There is absolutely no basis to claim Moore would do better in the 1960s against other top heavyweights than Marciano, because Moore didn't do better than Marciano against heavyweights in the 1950s.

Marciano beat better heavyweights in the 1950s and he was undefeated against them.

Marciano would do better against the 60s heavyweights than Moore because Marciano was a better heavyweight than Moore AND he was better than Moore. He proved it in the ring.

 

More importantly list all the assets you think Marciano has to beat, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, or either Klitchko.

Because out of those 10 I see at least nine of them totally destroying the stumpy little slugger inside 8 rounds, with the other 1 scoring a complete shut out.

 

You believe what you want.I'll believe what I watch.:good