Rocky Marciano In The 70's?

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If the 50s heavyweights got to use steroids like Holyfield mercer Morrison and others did....they would have a much more competitive advantage vs Lewis

Lewis beats the granny out of every 20s heavyweight

 

If Lewis went into the 1950s era just as he was he would still have his height and reach but the 1950s training for 15 rounds would make him want to be lighter. Why would he want to be as big as he could possibly be if he's fighting lighter, more experienced guys with a faster pace?

Obviously it sounds rediculous today putting a 240 pounder in with a 190 guy and quite rightly should not be allowed. But today's 190 guy is a different animal to the 1950s 190 pounder. If not better just different.

If Rid**** Bowe fought Lewis weighing 216 and gave away 20lb would he really be at that much of a disadvantage? Evander Holyfeild was that much lighter and a weight class shorter and still drew with Lewis.

Obviously the division changes with time. Over the years extra size and power is used more and more as a weapon to combat pace and skill untill the pace and skill becomes less of a factor. Refereeing has changed as has the damage that can be done with fewer full force blows with gloves. Both modern and old boxers were effective with what they had to work with. A great fighter was a great fighter and in most cases will be a great fighter whenever he was born. But there has to be a lot to be said for the Ray Robinson era and the number of fights those champions had, where they trained and how and why they achieved what they did in conditions that they had.

 

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I can see Rocky losing a few on points, but I think he gives anyone a good fight.

 

He goes undefeated again and the 50s becomes the golden age he was lucky not to be born into.

 

No? There's a surprise. Joe Frazier picking other fighters to beat Ali. Who'da thunk it?

 

WTF? Training methods, and technique may well have improved, but there were always big guys around in the 50's, and earlier.

Do you think Ali, Frazier, Holmes, and Foreman's parents were all little people who just happened to have big kids in the 40's?

 

What was it Marciano was quoted as saying when they went through with that silly computer fight?

" I didn't realise a guy that big could punch that fast "

Ali might have lost a lot of mobility in the 70's but he still possessed far superior hand speed and accuracy than Marciano could ever dream of. Easy win for Ali.

 

So do the Marx brothers, but 3 of them were ugly bas ****s.

 

Joe Frazier fought ALL of his career with a dodgy eye, NOT just the Foreman fight. So if he couldn't see Foreman's uppercuts it stands to reason he couldn't see anyone elses.

So we are back to where we started. Marcinao crouched low, Foreman had a monster uppercut. Marciano was NOT an elusive target. It isn't rocket science.

 

Yeah, but are you saying that Lewis had the advantage of steroids? Or that Marciano would have resembled anything but a thalidomide baby without them?

He was a fukking midget in a man's division. Get over it.

 

So how " big " were Willard, Carnera, Simon? You are just assuming the K2 brothers would be as crude, and as limited.

Example.

Until Ali in the early - mid 60's who had EVER seen a Heavyweight who could glide around the ring like a Welterweight?

Were there in fact both bigger, and smaller Heavies than Ali prior to his arrival on the scene? Yet NONE got up on their toes and moved like him.

So your point is moot.