The official Mayweather vs. Pacquiao aftermath trash receptacle

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  1. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :|:|:| #48 easy work
     
  2. MysticalNinja

    MysticalNinja Active Member Full Member

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    Most of us agree on the latter part. For everyone else, you're going to fail in getting people to "realize" that Pacquiao lost as the slo-mo brigade will keep telling you.

    Let it go and focus on upcoming fights.
     
  3. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a lot of testing considering that they both were using anyway.
     
  4. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This video was against Marquez. He's still in a sling. He got his stitches out a few days ago though. I hear the doctor will be flying to the Philippines soon, so they can assess the progress. When he first got back and was doing his celebratory parade, he whacked his shoulder against a pole and it started bleeding pretty bad. :/ I hope he doesn't try to excersise too soon, but I feel like he will. He's like Floyd, they love to excersise all the time.
     
  5. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LMFAO did you see that guy ready to back up that midget so he wouldn't fall down from the recoil? Weak. He better stick to .22 pellet guns.
     
  6. thekid

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    Only you and about 5 others think it was close
     
  7. StreetsOfGold

    StreetsOfGold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    mayweather beat a past it pac a past it dlh a past it mosley a damaged goods cotto yep lets move on from mayweather.
     
  8. pinolero1981

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    Mayweather beat a Pacquiao proclaimed to have the perfect plan to beat him, to have a plan for whatever Mayweather brought, to have his "killer instinct" back, and to overwhelm him with flurries and destroy him. Arum confirmed Pacquiao wasn't hurt before the fight and that he was hurt during the fight. Yes, he probably did been that he was hitting nothing but air. The fight wasn't close. It was a Mayweather fight. Pacquiao looked defeated, confused and out of his game plan. I don't think the shoulder contributed to the loss as much as he says. It was more that he did not know what to do. Maidana even had a better game plan than he did. Sorry Pacquiao, I don't believe your excuses. Time to move on. Plenty of other fighters to follow. Canelo, Chocolatito and GGG already seem like the future of boxing.
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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  10. BetterThenYou

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    MOVE ON?!

    We've been talking about this fight for years anticipating their every move, only for the actual fight to become as real as it gets. Diluted. So the hype and talk was more interesting than the fight itself. Its incredible to realize that after 36 minutes, majority doesn't wanna see the rematch.... After all the talk?! We know the outcome and we move on. No not me! After all that talk i want a trilogy! I wanted and bet on Mayweather to win. But i want to give Pac a chance again.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Pacquiao fans sad at this news.

    It was the only thing left for them to cling to; the hope that Floyd would test positive and the fight would be reversed to a No Contest.
     
  12. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That unfortunately has been twisted and embellished on from all the dummies on this form. Here's the truth on that particular matter.

    Post-fight conference with Philippine Media

    R: "Now you have an injury..."

    P: "Actually, I had this already."

    R: "Is it the jet ski injury?"

    P: "Yes."

    R: "2009?"

    P: "Yes, 2009."

    R: "[You hurt it] in the same spot when you were sparring in LA?"

    P: "Yes."

    These were Arum's quoted words immediately post-fight.

    "The doctor said it was an old injury. Kobe Bryant had the same thing[/I]."



    When they are saying they had the injury since 2009, they're not saying they've fought with a torn rotator cuff since 2009, haha. Not at all. Pacquiao explained it in other interviews. I think there was a jet ski collision or something in 2009, and that's where he first got a shoulder tear in his cuff. Pacquiao said though that he rested it, and then it healed. He didn't have problems with it after he allowed it to heal. So, it's not as if he fought with the injury since Oscar De La Hoya, haha.

    Then, in sparring, a collision happened where he tore his shoulder again. Now, rotator cuffs are tricky. Not all of them need surgery. In both cases for Manny, rest alone would allow it to heal, like when he hurt it the first time in 2009. The doctor told him when he injured it in sparring that he would have to rest for 40 days, but this is when he's in the middle of intense training 2 1/2 to 3 weeks from the fight. Manny obviously didn't want to just draw out of the fight, so the doctor gave him a cortisone shot in his shoulder when he received the MRI. Pacquiao said it felt 100% when he was given the shot, so the doctor told him if he rested it as much as he could up to the fight, then he would give Pacquiao a similar numbing shot on fight night that would allow him to use it 100%.

    Pacquiao agreed to that because it really was the only way he could prevent himself from pulling out. So, Pacquiao sent his sparring mates homes early, quit sparring, didn't use his right hand much at all up to the fight. Then, it is healing obviously because he's resting it. However, Pacquiao said he still felt pain with it especially with the power jab and hook. That's why he still needed the shot. He described it as a 50/60% usage without a shot and 100% usage with the shot because really the only symptoms of a cuff are pain and the pain would cause weakness.

    On fight night, he couldn't get the shot which was the reason he didn't post pone the fight. He didn't pull out previously because his expectation was that he could get that shot which would allow him to use it 100%, because, as I said, the doctor gave a shot to him when he got the MRI and he said his shoulder then felt fine w/ it. The commissioner (I think it was Aguilar) argued with Pacquiao, his doctors, and told Pacquiao to throw the right hand right then and there. Pac did it, said he felt pain, but that he'd just fight through it and it'll be okay because he could still use it, just not 100% without the shot. Aguilar said he didn't give Pac the shot because he didn't want Pacquiao to worsen the injury since he wouldn't have felt it, but that doesn't make sense to me. If that's the reason then why let him fight in the first place? He's going to worsen it regardless, so you might as well let him have the shot. Lol, but that's neither here nor there.

    Now, Dr. Elattrache broke down Pac's injury in an interview. What he said was Pacquiao tore 2 of the 4 tendons in that sparring session a few weeks before the fight. Pac rested his right hand which allowed it to heal some but not 100%. In the fight, Pac said the 3rd round he was beginning to feel pain and the 4th round was where it got bad to the point it began to inhibit him. He said the pain got severe when he threw the 15 punch combination. Dr. Elattrache said after the fight when he looked at his shoulder, it worsened (no surprise). Instead of the 2 tendons just being partially torn, Pacquiao had actually completely tore off one tendon from the shoulder and the other one tore worse. So, Dr. Elattrache had to actually reattach Pacquiao's tendon to his shoulder, the one that detached. See, if it was just a tear Pacquiao probably could have rested it with no surgery like the previous two times (in 2009, before the fight), but since the tendon got completely torn off in the fight, that's when he needed to actually get surgery.

    Same thing happened to Kobe. He went into the game where two tendons had tears, but when he dunked the ball they completely tore off the bone and then he needed the surgery.

    Imagine spraining your ankle a few years ago. You rest it, ice it everyday, and it heals. Then, two years later, you re-sprain it. You go to the doctor and he's able to tell that you've sprained it before, that's why it's called an "old injury". He tells you to rest it. You do for a little bit, but then you go on a run and due to you running with an injured foot, you end up completely breaking it. So now, instead of resting it, the doctor has to go in and perform surgery on it. That's an ****ogy of what happened.

    Hopefully this breakdown clears things up. None of this is embellished, I promise. After gathering all the research on it from his own doctor, Pacquiao, etc, this is what it has come down to. I can provide the interview with the doctor if you want. He even has an animation of what happened to Manny to provide a visual and clearer understanding.
     
  13. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When Tyson lost to Lewis did everyone just drop it immediately after the fight happened or did people talk about it. Heck, people are still talking about it.
     
  14. Typhoon

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    the thing is, i think most Pac fans legitimately feel Floyd didn't do much to deserve 116-112, 116-112,118-110... The guy was super defensive, barely landed any good punches (3-4 decent half landed punches, rest were taps and touches), didn't do what he promised (action packed, exciting fight, KO etc,,).

    Pac fans don't feel that bad at all. Reality is that Pac also made floyd look inadequate. Floyd was less accurate than usual and as stated above didn't do much. The problem was that Pac didn't do enough himself.

    This was more like an inactive, cautious sparring session so even Floyd fans should be disillusioned with Floyd's performance, he was very unimpressive too.

    and it seems it's Floyd fans that can't move on, they are in disarray at claims Pac was injured and Floyd didn't dominate or barely won.
     
  15. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    Let me end this bs already with you re****ed flo-os. Juan soften Pac for your boy to beat him. Thank you very much