The official Mayweather vs. Pacquiao aftermath trash receptacle

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  1. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Maidana isn't a fight you take if you want a low risk, high pay out. He's not a box office draw, he's previously beaten boxers who were much better than he was in Broner.

    He beat Broner, after Broner beat Malignaggi

    Floyd only fights twice a year, the level of competition he's sustained since De La Hoya has been insane. He hasn't had the Chris Algieri or Brandon Rios level opponents.
     
  2. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Yeah that's not me. I was amazed at how well floyd still can move and how fast he was. He won. But it WAS closer than some think. But floyd won. Pac seemed off. But that could be THA floyd mentally broke him early and he was hesitant all fight. Either way. For me, I don't want to see these guys fight anybody else so they might as well fight a rematch then leave boxing. And let boxing move on. There are so many other talented and exciting fighters that nobody even talks about because of these two.

    I understand what you're saying about the fans though. I turned into a cazaghe badger, margarita basher and now I find myself bashing GGG because of his fans. And I love watching all of those guys!
     
  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    You mean ortiz?
    His comp is better than Pac's, but since 2011 his comp level hasn't been insane. Maidna, Ortiz, Guerrero, aren't "insane" opponents.
    I agree Maidana isn't a fight you take for a big pay out, but he probably was riding off the fact that Maidana made a huge name out of beating loud mouth Broner.
     
  4. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    I had it 116-112 and I could see arguments for 117-111. To get to 115-113 I had to basically forget everything about scoring a boxing contest (i.e Ring Generalship, Defense, Effective Aggression) and just score it on the fact that they threw a similar amount of punches and neither fight did much in certain rounds.

    The reality is though, it wasn't a close fight, the first three rounds were a clinic in distance control and ring generalship. The surprising factor for me was that Pac didn't throw caution to the wind later in the fight and look for the KO. He must have known he was behind, solely on how few punches he was throwing.
     
  5. abuffy

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    If you knew anything about Canelo or Maidana's style, as Mayweather did, you'd know they didn't stand a chance. They might seem like dangerous fighters, but stylistically, the couldn't hold a candle to Floyd Mayweather. Floyd KNEW that. They were so stylistically tailored for Floyd that Floyd knew he'd eat them up. I knew that! He embarrassed Canelo, while Maidana was a bit of surprise. Mayweather and company didn't expected Maidana to do that well though.

    Not forgetting that Canelo was at a catch weight. Canelo was very adamant about that before and after the fight.

    They weren't risky options. Floyd knew this. I could tell by the way he talked about Canelo before the fight that he knew this boy would be easy cake.
     
  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree with most of this posts besides Maidana stlye, Maidana's style is strong against Mayweather's style.
     
  7. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    It was clear who was winning the rounds. I agree. The 2nd 1/2 of the fight was floyd. But he was winning rounds, that's all. Not dominating. Not hurting pacquiao. It looked like a sparring match. And honestly, the shoulder. Who knows.... In the corner, roach did say "fight through it" and I can see why they wouldn't bring attention to it. And at one point Mayweather did blatantly hold and yank the arm and Pac looked at him confused.
    I don't know. The whole fight was wierd and disappointing.

    Thank god for the Canelo fight. That fight delivered!
     
  8. PugilisticPower

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    Ortiz beat Berto, yes. I got him and Maidana mixed up.

    Who else should he have fought?

    Ortiz was "the young buck" with some impressive wins, he's since faded completely.

    Guerrero had proven himself in a lower weight class and came up to defeat Berto, he was a solid fighter that wasn't really a "stay busy" opponent.

    Maidana was Top 10 P4P, had beaten Broner in amongst a pretty impressive win streak. I remember before that fight was made, the talk was that Floyd would avoid Maidana because he was too strong on the inside and would rough house Floyd. Which is actually what he did do well.

    The "insane" level opponents were either busy, had already been beaten by Floyd or had some issue with needles, drug testing and being the B side to the biggest money maker of all time in boxing.
     
  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wait what?

    Maidana was top 10 p4p?
     
  10. Typhoon

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    lol

    maidana threw like 1,200 punches at Floyd in 24 rounds and Pac may have hurt Floyd more with only 430 punches and one injured arm.
     
  11. PugilisticPower

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    Ok, so basically because "They don't stand a chance" against one of the best boxers of all time, with a style focused on minimising risk through defense that without question, is the best technique of all time ( others may have had better reflexes and evasion, but no one had the mastery of a defense technique like Floyd ) who has quicker footspeed and trigger speed.... we should consider them "weak"

    There isn't a boxer below 175lbs that would enter the ring as "favorite" against Floyd. You can't penalise him because "Those who knew boxing knew Canelo wouldn't win"

    Those who knew boxing knew Pacquaio wouldn't win either... does that mean Pacquiao is a piece of **** fighter too?
     
  12. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    You're an idiot if you think Floyd was ever hurt in the Pacquaio fight.
     
  13. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Agreed. In the absence of someone who can't outslick and outspend Mayweather, the way to beat him is to give him NO respect and take it to him. Maidana did that. And almost won the first fight.
     
  14. BewareofDawg

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    He admitted it. Not close to being finished. But he was rocked in the 4th.
     
  15. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    He didn't throw punches like a guy with a torn rotator cuff, and even if we accept that "he wasn't injured until the fourth round" - the first three rounds showed you everything you needed to know about this fight.

    In a way, the cautious approach by Manny and not committing more to his punches made the fight closer, because I always saw this being an easy Floyd victory solely because Manny can't turn effectively and loses his balance against good footwork

    Even Mosley showed that, but for some reason couldn't capitalise.