Who is the greatest middleweight ever?

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  1. Super Hans

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    Because his body of work at the weight was unparalleled. He ruled in the divisions most glorious era. The only man to beat Gene Tunney, also beat guys like Tommy Loughran, Mickey Walter, Mike and Tommy Gibbons.

    He has 26 wins over fighters in the Hall of Fame. He avenged every defeat he had at the weight in style except Tiger Flowers right at the end of his career which was two very debatable decisions.
     
  2. Brandish

    Brandish Active Member Full Member

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    Edward Henry "Harry" Greb was an American professional boxer. Nicknamed "The Pittsburgh Windmill", he was the American Light Heavyweight Champion from 1922 to 1923 and World Middleweight Champion from 1923 to 1926:deal

    you say reigning as champ for 3 years is unparralled lmao. :nut

    hagler was champ for 7 years and koed all but two of his opponents during his reign:deal

    greb couldn't carry marvin's jockstrap:nono
     
  3. Super Hans

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    Greb reigned in the toughest era ever and probably had as many fights if not more in that 3 years compared to Hagler's 7.

    Does Hagler have 26 wins over Hall of Famer's? :think
     
  4. the factor

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    Jones
    Greb
    Robinson
    Monzon
    Hagler
    Hopkins outside the top 10
     
  5. Grinder

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    There is enough evidence to put Greb at number one. You can't discount him because of footage. That would be like in 100 years people saying Ali can't be ranked because there isn't a super slow ultra hd 360 degree 3 dimensional footage of him fighting.
     
  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mine goes like this: 1. Monzon 2. Hagler 3. Robinson 4. Greb
     
  7. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Hes not top 3
     
  8. Good Cop

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    Easily Mr. Greb.

    We don't have footage of his spree in action, but there's plenty of footage of many of the victims on his hit list. Even if he looked like Bozo the Clown doing it, greatness is in the W, kid. No 160 has the rap sheet he does.

    Video evidence is overrated. There'd be millions more millionaires made from betting on boxing if people could ascertain future fight results for modern fighters for whom we see their entire careers. Too many people love styles which are the most visually appealing, and that lie is generally what ends up separating them from their bets. Trying to use it to define an entire career from an old timer? FUHGEDDABOUTIT.
     
  9. kingfisher3

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    i voted hagler, you can make an argument for any of the 3 tho, or greb, but that wasn't an option.
     
  10. Serge

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    Greb is the most overrated fighter in the history of pugilism. He only beat all those ATGs and great fighters thanks to him being the beneficiary of countless dubious decisions and outright robberies. There's no doubt in my mind this would be proven to be true if we were actually able to see footage of all those fights. :deal
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Greetings Serge

    Changing the subject, have you seen this thread

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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Greetings Herr Bailey. No I haven't seen it yet. I will check it out. I'd heard about that a while back though.

    But I did see your one where you picked DeGale to beat Dirrell. Congratulations on knocking the ball out of the park yet again. I myself also picked DeGale. :D
     
  13. Drew101

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    1. Greb
    2. SRR
    3. Monzon
    4. Hagler

    The four are interchangeable, depending on the criteria used to rate them.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    I think Harry Greb might be overrated as a middleweight, for the simple fact that I suspect he weighed in over the 158 or 160 pound limit or many of his best wins.

    He was beating up bigger men often, yes, but he himself, I believe, often weighed 164 - 169 pounds. And sometimes against far smaller men too.

    I don't believe Marvin Hagler ever weighed in at more than 162 in a non-title fight. Rarely did he weigh over 160.

    Greb probably deserves to be rated higher as a light-heavyweight.
     
  15. smooveonthe88

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl