Who is the greatest middleweight ever?

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  1. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    No. Just no.
     
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  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good pick
     
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  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    1. Hagler
    2. Monzon
    3. Greb
    4. SRR
    5. Hopkins

    :smoke
     
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  4. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Potentially GGG>Hopkins.
     
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  5. lencoreastside

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    At this stage GGG has to be included....
     
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  6. Thread Stealer

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    What do some of the early Robinson-LaMotta fights qualify as for Ray? He was weighing in below the WW limit, he was a welterweight, but facing a middleweight.

    I'd say it goes towards WW, but how about fights in which he weighed like 149, 150, 151? He was over the WW limit, but lots of fighters have had "over the weight limit" fights. No one says Gatti-Ward 1 is one of the greatest welterweight fights ever, it's one of the greatest junior welterweight fights ever even though they were 141. Michael Spinks had some fights early in his career, such as Marvin Johnson I think, where he was 177-178.

    Say a Robinson was around 150-ish? Is that going towards his WW ranking or MW ranking?
     
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  7. Manfred

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    I think so too.
     
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  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why did Robinson move to MW? He was an extremely small middleweight.

    Was he having trouble making 147? Was it for money and bigger paydays? Or a combination?
     
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  9. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    paydays and because he'd cleaned out welter(of those who would actually face him)
     
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  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    The people who say this, are they ignorant to the Jones loss or just dismissing it?
     
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  11. Manfred

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    Most great fighters have lost, I thought you knew that.
     
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  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know what you mean. Most great fighters have lost. But it's the way that he lost. It was an outclassing not just a loss.

    Hopkins is an ATG, but make no mistake. He was outclassed by Jones.
     
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  13. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have no doubt Monzon would dominate Hagler.
     
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  14. Brandish

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    how many of thos so-called HOFers did he beat in his 3 year reign at 160 lmao. don't try and change the subject greb had a 3 year reign at 160 hardly unparalleled.:deal

    hopkins reigned at 160 far longer then greb. greb shouldn't even be in this discussion:deal
     
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  15. Toker

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    Monzon!
     
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