Who has more chance of springing an upset Gavin v Brook or Molina v Wilder?

Willie Monroe Jr had a better chance than both.

 

He wouldn't have been forced to fight Gavin as a mando, Bradley is rated higher, nice try making the excuse though. I've educated you on this several times. Also the guy that beat Gavin is ranked 17, so that just proves boxrec's ratings mean jack ****. Gavin should be behind Bundu forsure.

Deontay is also coming off an injury, and he's not the number 1 ranked guy in his division. Brook is coming off fighting a guy ranked 22 whether it was a mando or not and now he's fighting a guy that should be ranked worse than 17. Now no one is happy wiht what Wilder is doing, and if he fights another guy not even clsoe to the top 10, like Brook is doing then he'll get even more critcism.

 

Neither.They are both mediocre

 

:nod

 

I think Gavin can make it competitive, Gavin is a 6/1 underdog for a reason though. Seems Kell's on the special shakes too!

 

That was clearly incredibly recent, since last time I checked which was like a week ago Bradley was rated higher. If Brook gave him a shot at the IBF a month ago instead of cherry picking Frankie this would have never happened obviously. Of course Brook picked the easier fight, first jojo the biggest bum ever dan then Gavin, what a joke 2 guys far from the top 10. Neither are even top 15, like I said Gavin lost to Bundu who's not even ranked top 15.

Also, I never claimed he shouldn't have took a fight, he could have callde up Bradley or Rios, but again obviously he picks the easy cherry picking in Gavin.

Brook is rated as the #1 contender, Mayweather is the champ, I'm going off ring rankings, obviously Thurman should be higher rated but he doesn't have a meaningful world title so Brook is rated higher.

Also I never said Gavin is worse, they're both terrible. Keep getting schooled hansy boy :hi:.

 

Yeah, he'd definitely take the fight for the shot at the number 1 contenders belt. Bradley is the type of guy that would. You must not knwo much about Bradley if you think he wouldn't.

Also, again you own yourself. Rios was on record saying he's available in May, and he would have fought Brook. [YT]tgbG4lq8uz0[/YT]. :hi: keep owning yourself super virgin :rofl.

The only reason Brook is ranked higher is because fo the IBF belt, he's the only one with a meaningful world titel besides Floyd, if Berto won the only other title that Floyd didn't have he'd be ranked #1 too.

 

Gavin stands the much better chance of causing the upset.

Gavin is a live underdog. Molina is being brought in as a punch bag in a marking time fight.

Gavin is a tricky, skilful, back foot fighter who knows how to box well, but also knows how to mug fighters and steal rounds. If Kell isn't on his A game he could see Gavin nick it.

Kell seems to be getting a lot of stick for his last two opponents. Dan isn't a bad fighter. Is he a world beater? Of course not. But, he is still a decent fighter and considering Kell was coming of a stabbing injury it was an acceptable fight for a first title defence. Although, saying that, in the world of ESB, if you aren't a top ten P4P fighter, you are a bum. Only in the childish world of ESB can 99.9% of professional boxer's be classified as bums.

There weren't many options for his next fight so Gavin isn't the worst choice in the world. A lot of Americans might not know much about Gavin, but anyone who has followed his career (and that means watching more than just the Bundu fight) knows what Gavin is potentially capable of. The Gavin fight is a serious banana skin fight for Brook.

After long periods of inactivity for Brook, it is good to finally see him fighting regularly. Apparently discussions are already underway for a Brook-Rios fight latter in the summer (which is a little disrespectful to Gavin-not necessarily the discussions themselves, but the fact that they were made public), which whilst stylistically favourable for Brook, it will still be a good name on his resume if he can get the win.

I keep seeing people mentioning rankings. Why? Do people not see the irony in claiming they know about boxing and then going on talk about particular fighters positioning in certain organisations rankings as if these rankings have any merit at all.

If someone says they know boxing and then says so-and-so is good because he is ranked 5th in the WBC rankings and 3rd on Boexrec, then that person needs to log off and repeatedly punch themselves in their pen1s.