Max Baer vs Wladimir Klitschko (old Boxing rules 1930)

If you had any sense people would listen to you.

 

Max has an outside chance if he can land his right hand, Wlad's chin hasn't got any better, Wach landed just one punch of any significance and had him in some disarray.
If Baer gets his overhand wallop in it could be TIMBER!
Otherwise its a gradual peck, peck, peck breakdown.

 

Great performance from Louis but Baer certainly having hand problems. You certainly didn't invent it, is fairly well known.

 

Baer's problem in that fight was a heart problem, not a hand one. He began to hyperventilate in the dressing room , Dempsey was disgusted with him and threatened
to hit him there and then if he didn't get in the ring.
Louis believed Baer tried to throw the fight by fouling out.

 

He gave up at when he broke his hand in the flurry at the end of 2.

He may have been nervous , even intimidated, but he was fighting until his hand shattered. I think that just broke him mentally as well as physically.

After the second he did nothing.

 

Max Baer had real (and well-reported at the time) hand problems since injury during an exhibition with Eddie Simms on April 22, 1935.

He was under contract to defend the title for MSG within a year of winning it against Carnera on June 14, 1934, and he had to take that fight or be sued, so that was made for June 13, 1935.
His hands were not right for that, and badly aggravated during the fight

Then he was rushed into the Joe Louis fight just 3 months later. He claimed his hands were okay but apparently he received shots in both hands before the fight.

It's all part of the job though, I guess.

 

So because the 6' 2" Joe Louis with a 76 " reach went into Carnera the way you describe the 6' 6" , 81" reach Klitchko has to do the same.

Not to mention even though Baer, Louis, Haynes, and Musina can all stop Primo, the 240 lb Klitchko can't.

Yeah right.:nut

 

It astounds me how little some here know about the basics of the sport.

 

Again, do you even know what you are talking about? (or is my sarcasm meter non-functioning)

Have you any idea how Wlad and Vitali grew up? Military life in Kazakhstan and Ukraine in the 1980's/90's was not soft by any stretch. For a good number of years their entire family lived in a one-bedroom concrete bunker styled apartment. Compulsory participation in martial arts from a young age, a father waiting on paychecks that often never arrived, ultimately sacrificing his life in cleaning up Chernobyl because at least he was guaranteed payment.


And then you simply boil this down to a nationalist us v them argument? That is your input?

I stand by my previous statement.

Oh, and the Soviet Union won the Second World War.

 

Yeah, but don't let facts get in the way of a good yarn. :roll:

 

Wlad won a war against Sam Peter in 2005.

 

You're right. I understand any of the above gibberish.

 

i voted wlad mostly due to superior handspeed, but any result is possible

 

and thats all you got. Both brothers are chumps who have fought no one of significance apart from Vitali getting his face busted up v old fat Lewis lol.

 

I had Brock up after the first 4 rounds , as did most people.

Wlad came on when Brock was clearly slowing down from all the bear hugs and elbows he was taking into the back of the neck.

While Brock was ready and able , Wlad didn't know what to do with him.

Round 3 is one entire round of clinching by Wlad. He barely threw a punch. All he did was grab and hold. For the full 3 mins.
And this is against Brock. An absolute nobody who looked half his size.

You claim it astounds you how people know so little about this sport while you ride the Wlad jock strap like he's the second Ali.

Well would you tell Mark Breland he knows nothing about the sport as well?
Or Fred Jenkins?

Tell me what fighter has had the opposing corner make appeals to the local athletic commissions to make him fight a clean fight?
I want to know who that guy is. I want you to tell me???

You just don't understand we're dealing with mediocrity here. The evidence is clearly on film.
You must realize that the issue lies with you , not with me and Mark Breland , David Haye and every other pro boxer and trainer.