Who will rank higher in the ATG list, Joe Calzaghe or Emmanuel Pacquiao?

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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  2. RazorbackBoxing

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    exactly this
     
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  3. The Akbar One

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    Pacquiao was a belt holder in 8 divisions. Not World Champion. World Champion suggests he was unified, and the best of the division. I don't think Pac would have beat Juan Guzman. Might not have beaten Raheem, or Nate Campbell when he was hot.

    Pacquiao did face the much stiffer opposition between the two, and it isn't even close. Calzaghe has Hopkins, and Kessler. Pac has Barrera, Morales, Cotto, etc.

    Calzaghes resume is viewed as extremely soft, and his best win is highly controversial. He was awarded a majority decision despite landing no more than 50 punches.
     
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    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    There is not arguement Barry.
    How can a fighter who has been KOd and beaten on several occasions compare to a fabulous 46-0, clear ruler of a division with 24 world title victories be compared. They cant
     
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  5. RazorbackBoxing

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    It will ruffle some feathers but bhop deserved the nod for sure. As you say calzaghe landed nothing, what he did land were sloppy pitty-patty slaps and he got dropped.

    I think you are under selling pac
     
    RazorbackBoxing, May 28, 2015
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    :patsch Thats why Hopkins was hanging on, looking for time out and backing off :patsch.
     
    bailey, May 28, 2015
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    48 more punches than his opponent who he outlanded in every round
     
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  8. RazorbackBoxing

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    He was backing late because he was 43 and fighting out of his natural weight class , plus absorbed at least one low-blow.

    Pac had 10x joe's resume before he made it to lightweight
     
    RazorbackBoxing, May 28, 2015
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    Compubox isnt always right as this ridiculous notion proves.
     
    RazorbackBoxing, May 28, 2015
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    Is this a real question MVC or are you still annoying the Pacquiao fans? :lol:
     
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  11. Bogotazo

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    Calzaghe ain't even on the list.
     
    Bogotazo, May 28, 2015
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  12. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Correct, Zaggers was so good he has a list unto his own. Then all the other lesser fighters in history are on a separate list. :happy
     
    Ducklerr, May 28, 2015
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  13. N17

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    Pacquiao's opponents read like a Who's Who of boxing...

    Calzaghe's reads like a Who's that?

    As much as I liked Joe, it is a ridiculous question, it is not even close.
     
    N17, May 28, 2015
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  14. Barry Smith

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    In a 46 fight career, Calzaghe basically has 2 wins against top level fighters and one of those was a highly debatable SD, in which he got dropped, against a 43 year-old that he was a huge favorite to beat.
     
    Barry Smith, May 28, 2015
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    No comparison, Pacquiao will always light up the history books with his incredible jump through the weight divisions in recent times.

    Calzaghe will be remembered as a great 168lber, but far too many duff or unknown opponents on his resume in the grand scheme of things. And his best opponents (or names rather) came far too late in his career.
     
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