The Biggest frauds of All Time?

What about D Icke? he,s entertaining for sure

 

I have nothing relevant to Britain, but when you make a list of British fighters which one of them has just been pro for a year and a half and call it "the fraud list", it's hard not to think you have a problem with Brits.

 

9/11? Good grief.

Anyway, back to boxing.

Ray Leonard from 154 onwards. :-(

Now, I like Leonard and I rate him amongst the great welterweights.

However there was a lot of smoke and mirrors as he went up the weights and I personally don't think he was the same fighter from Kevin Howard onwards.

You have to give him some credit for the Hagler fight, if only because he'd been so inactive and had never boxed at middleweight before.

However, Leonard quite openly admits that he waited for Hagler to get old and slow down before he dared make the fight. He was also able to manipulate all the so called 'A side' stuff for the fight including gloves and ring size. The fight itself wasn't great and it was close enough that many still feel that a shop worn Hagler deserved to win.

After Hagler Leonard went after Donny LaLonde, the weakest of light heavyweight champions out there at the time.

The Lalonde fight was a catchweight for which Leonard weighed 165 with weighted pockets. In other words he was permitted to fight for a light heavyweight title without even making the super middle limit. Leonard never ever boxed at light heavy and should never have been able to snare a light heavyweight title.

Then came the second Hearns fight, which wasn't that good and which he later admitted he deserved to lose but, of course, got the draw.

The less said about the third Duran fight the better. It was dreadful.

Following another lay off he came back for Terry Norris and was soundly beaten.

He should never have taken the Camacho fight five years later.

Leonard gets a lot of credit for his achievements at 160 and above and there is no doubt that these fights helped to cement his legacy, but when you look at these fights closely they are not so great. There are also the long lay offs, refusal to grant rematches and his tendency to make big money fights without proving himself at the weight.

Leonard was the media darling and a promoters dream and he got a lot of milage out of that.

Leonards real worth as a boxer can be found at welter in his fights with Hearns, Benetiz and Kalule. I also think the first Duran fight, although he lost, was a tremendous performance, and among his best.

These fights put Leonard right up there at welter, he was a great welterweight for sure, but the rest of it; meh, smoke and mirrors.

 

con man!

 

passable goalkeeper. would have some credibility regards digital surveillance he flagged up a decade ago if it weren't for all the 7' lizard nonsense!

 

I don't.... I think it was planned by the 5 mosaads and executed by 21 morons who thought they were working for Islam when in reality... Mr Osman was earning 50k/mo doing EXACTLY as the Israelis ORDERED him to.

 

He's either the world's worst humorist or a closet Englishman.

 

lovely thread this turned out to be. I normally agree with Ducklerr, but here I'd have to say something:

There is nothing good about radical muslims, just like there is nothing good about radical jews, and there was nothing good about radical christians (I am saying was, because christianity has mellowed out and now commits its atrocities indirectly). Fanatics of any kind are a waste of carbon and need to be removed, as a man without reason is no man at all (and please don't call them animals, as animals in general are not known to gather in packs to rip someone to shreds for amusement).

That being said of course, US is the reason we have these fanatics in power. It may not be a causation, but its definitely a correlation. Iran was a secular progressive country until US staged a change of regime. Bin laden was originally a US ally. The age old saying of "don't dig another man a hole, you will fall in it yourself" has come true for america, time after time after time.

 

He is not supposed to have any credibility that is the point of GATEKEEPERS aka shills aka agents aka con men.

 

I think you'd be hard pressed to find me showing any support for the radicals of any religion, mate. I'm equally against any expression of violence and agree with your contention that US foreign policy has been a key factor in the spread of radical Islam. I call out Doubledge because he displays constant signs of bigotry and deep down I hope he's making steps towards civilization but it never seems to be the case.

 

Nonsense. Mossad is a creation of British Intelligence to begin with. The planes that hit the towers were drones. Many eyewitnesses from the day saw them, certainly NOT commercial airliners.

Forget what you are told; just view the eyewitness accounts; they were never shown on TV after 9/11.

 

God, this guy has some to poison the general forum as well. He's been banned for comments on the British one previously...

 

Floyd Mayweather Jr. should top the list.

 

:|:|:| FOUR WEEKS OF BUTT HURT. Stop already.

 

Good list:good