Usually, there are no rematches for superfights, so don't get your hopes up.

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  1. Ok Scott
     
  2. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: Yes, I'm kidding.

    However, it is impossible to be a Zaggers fanboy :nono Only one who has appropriate respect for a true legend.
     
  3. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    :lol:

    When the hell did I become Scott Gilfoid? :lol:
     
  4. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm sorry, but seeing Floyd's way, his personality, his business attributes... I see him fighting someone easy for his 49-0 fight. Khan seems likely. I think Mayweather is truly ****ed off right now how people are still discrediting his win with the injury, slo-mo **** and what not.

    However, I feel after his fight with whichever no name, he'll picks up his check...he'll see how low his PPV buys are. He sees Canelo and Cotto wanting to steal his dates, the competition. Mayweather just tasted the filets of paydays and going back to ground beef doesn't taste as good(even if it's still ridiculous in our eyes).

    By December, he'll sit at the table. They will show him a list of opponents and the potential paydays from each. He'll see Garcia, Thurman, Brook and then the paydays below. Then, he'll see Manny Pacquiao's name and the double, potential triple, pay day compared to those other opponents. He'll see 9 zero's. Okay, say what you want, but Pacquiao is STILL the best financial option for Floyd Mayweather. That's how big of stars these two are.

    So, when Floyd's sitting at that table and comparing those numbers. You know what he'll say?

    "Hmm...I could set a #2 record with him. Maybe 2.4-2.8 million buys if we play it right...go out with another 9 figure payday? You know what, screw it. Let's fight him again. We'll give him less, and I'll beat him two times as easy. Then, I'll walk out of boxing forever, 50-0, with 150-180 million dollars in my pocket."

    That's business, folks. Pacquiao is going to have to swallow his pride and take the 70/30 split though. I think he would. This is more about pride than money FOR HIM at this point. For Floyd, it's all about the money. That's why I love him, haha.
     
  5. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    It could definitely happen, not saying there's no chance.

    But using money as a reason is simply a too simplistic outlook at assessing this.

    We've seen too many instances in boxing where everybody thought a rematch would occur since there's so much money on the table.

    In the end, it always falls through.

    That's how it is.

    They said it about Lewis/Tyson, DLH/Mayweather (2.4 million buys), Felix/ODLH, Ray/Hagler. All HUGE money fights for both parties (rematch). But not one of them materialized.

    Why?

    It's because one of the fighters usually doesn't want it. They don't want the other guy to get the satisfaction of winning.

    And Floyd isn't ****ed off at all about these excuses Pac and his entourage are making.

    He's disappointed that Pac and his entourage are such sore losers and lying to the public.

    That's it.

    Very good chance he'll take the victory, get the 50-0 and ride off into the sunset without ever fighting Pacquiao again.
     
  6. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    I like him, a lot.

    But there's so much more he could have done with skills like that.

    It's just a shame.

    He's had a great run, but it could have been infinitely better.
     
  7. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  8. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't get why you keep listing Khan as the example for an easy fight he might take. Outside of the completely unrealistic prospects of someone like GGG, Andrade or Lara who is a more difficult fight for him to make than Khan? Brook? Thurman? That's it. Of all the WWs out there Khan is in the top 3 toughest fights for Floyd. I would certainly rather see Floyd fight a new guy than rematch one he's already beaten handily like Cotto/Caneo/Pac.

    And If the rumors are true, Floyd is guaranteed $100mil AGAIN no matter who he fights next so to say he'd be looking at only FIVE zeroes if he fought someone other than Pac is laughable. He got $32 mil +PPV rev for fighting Robert f*cking Guerrero. And do you realize 9 zeroes is a billion dollars? :patsch
     
  9. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Only Adrien could make that. :deal

    About Billions :hammertime
     
  10. markq

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    If Excusequiao is willing to take less than 60-40 then Floyd will rematch him. It's like taking candy from a baby. But if Pac becomes a diva and thinks he deserves more after that sorry ass performance then he can go back to getting 300K PPV buys.
     
  11. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    I thought he changed it to Argentina's B*tch after the Chino fight.
     
  12. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I feel ya. However, I still feel the money is too big to turn down. One reason why this first fight ended up happening. 180,000,000 dollars man... I promise you Floyd Mayweather wants it, lol. It's a free lottery, and as lavish of a life style he lives, he'll want it.

    Showtime has already said they want a rematch. Top Rank has already said they want a rematch. Pacquiao obviously does. Mayweather's son and uncle say they want a rematch. Also, I'm sure there's more on his team that feel Mayweather could have put a better performance and hurt him. Then, Mayweather himself wants a rematch. He admitted it immediately after the fight that he'd fight him again (once again, why the hell not). He may be upset, but as time passes, I promises you the money will draw him in. It always does.
     
  13. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao's not stupid, lol. I think the split would be around 70/30 or 75/35. Pacquiao knows he doesn't have negotiating power. Little to none. This is all redemption to him, so I think he'll bite his tongue. The money he'd make from 70/30 is still more than he'd make by himself with other opponents.
     
  14. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Yes, if it was me, I'd probably take it too.

    But I'm not a boxer, I don't know how most of them think.

    History tells us that money usually isn't a big determinant on the boxer's choice when it comes to mega superfights.

    Floyd has always stated that he wants to leave on his own terms.

    So what if he takes the fight at age 39, and loses?

    Should he do it again?

    The money will always be there for him.

    I'm of the mindset that he'll walk away very soon. If he allows greed to guide him like you said, he would never be able to walk away. He'd go out like Ali/Leonard etc did, taking a loss to somebody you should have beaten in your prime. And a downward spiral afterwards.
     
  15. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only a REAL superfight can give us a 75/35 split :nod. THAT'S how much money is in this. :deal

    Just messin with ya, abuffy. Don't get upset.