I have Floyd ranked #9 on my ATG list, what would he need to get to top 5? Or beyond?

yikesyikes:yikes

 

fuken greb, how many fights did that dude have?that cant be over looked:deal what about willie pep. joe louis, monzon...ect

 

MY TOP 50:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Harry Greb
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Muhammad Ali
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Joe Louis
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Archie Moore
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Jack Johnson
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
18. Joe Gans
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. Sandy Saddler
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier
27. Ezzard Charles
28. Jake LaMotta
29. George Foreman
30. Terry McGovern
31. Billy Conn
32. Jose Napoles
33.Ruben Olivares
34. Emile Griffith
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Eder Jofre
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Larry Holmes
39. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Marco Antonio Barrera
44. Pernell Whitaker
45. Carlos Monzon
46. Bernard Hopkins
47. Roy Jones Jr.
48. Oscar De La Hoya
49. Erik Morales
50. Mike Tyson

 

:nod I have Pep #9, Louis #6. Then there's Fitzsimmons, Charles, Gans, Conn, McFarland, Walker, Benny Leonard, Moore, Ali and many others before we even hit the guys from the 80s...

 

hmmmm....holmes before floyd.....im not sure about that mopar

 

Good list :good

#1 thing that jumps out at me is Langford very low for my taste and not enough distance between him and Jack Johnson given their history.

 

Charles very low for me too and Foreman way high for me.

 

Where is Bob Fitzsimmons, Mopar??

 

Fitzsimmons is above 50 in my opininon

 

Look at the era and the fighters Holmes was in with.

Mercer 1st loss for Ray
Randall Cobb tough as hell
Witherspoon 1st loss for Tim
Snipes 1st loss for Reynaldo
****ey 1st loss for Gerry
Ocasio 1st loss for Ossie

Fought Michael Spinks twice, Norton, Shavers, Ali (later years, but still a name), Carl Williams.

 

:huh Like outside the top 50?

 

I have Fitzsimmons around 51-56. I may do a Top 100 soon.

 

:think Interesting, I think he's top 10. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

 

i think so

 

Good fighters holmes beat, but hes not above floyd imo... agree to disagree on that...Carl "the truth"....decsent name imo