Should same day weight-ins be brought back ?

To stop frauds like Saul Alvarez, Julio Chavez Jr., Keith Thurman etc that dehydrate & than drink tons of water to come in at 10-20 pounds over the weight class limit they are fighting in.

 

Yes .

 

Who are some examples of non fraudulent active boxers who have never rehydrated to a level you would consider unacceptable?

 

I'm in favour of them, in theory. I think they'd only succeed in making fighters less safe and able in the ring though - I reckon fighters would still be rehydrating on the same day, which is dangerous.

 

They all do that.

There are few exceptions.

 

Ideally not rehydrating at all would be ideal. But currently fighters are allowed too, so it's obvious they'll do it, otherwise they would be at a disadvantage.

It's the alphabet job to enforce these rules, not the trainers ...

Some fighters that walk around fight weight, which mean they deserve respect: Gennady Golovkin, Bernard Hopkins Floyd Mayweather Jr., Wladimir Klitschko ( he's a HW tho, so it doesn't really matter ... ) they stay close to their fight night weight except on some rare occasions ( mistakes happens, so I can understand you come in overweight for a fight or two in your career, but every fight ? ).

 

They stopped doing same day weight-in because Eddie Mustapha Muhammad came in overweight for a light-heavyweight unification match with Michael Spinks from what I've read.

Spinks said he didn't give a **** about the fight and wouldn't fight due to him having to make an effort to make weight and the other guy didn't give a single **** about it, when asked if he would be fine with a non-title bout than, he said no.

Back than it was a superfight kind of thing, so to not let down fans etc they removed same day weights-ins so this doesn't happen again.

I think Spinks was right tho.

 

But what is an acceptable amount to rehydrate for you? Give it to me as a % above the weight class limit so that we can normalize it across weigh classes. GGG has rehydrated 13 lbs before which is about a 7.5% rehydration above the MW limit. Floyd has rehydrated 9.5 lbs which was 6.8% above the SFW limit where he was fighting at the time. By way of contrast, on the other thread you considered it unacceptable for a fighter to rehydrate to 152 for a JWW fight which is a 7.9% rehydration above the JWW limit.

 

5lbs limit. Thatll knock all this bs off when it comes to guys rehydrating. Its part of whats absolutely killing this sport. I think its much healthier for fighters to fight near their natural weight. is it a coincidence that manny and floyd look so good at their age? Its because they dont fight too far from their natural weight.

 

Which fights are you claiming those in-ring weights for Golovkin and Floyd?

 

No problem with that :thumbsup

I just want to make sure the thread isn't about an agenda to slam some fighters while letting others off the hook for doing the same thing.

I don't think a flat lb limit makes sense. 5 lbs means a lot more at 102 than it would at 168. My solution would be to either introduce a universal maximum rehydration % and weigh fighters before they step in the ring.

Or you could simply make it a rule that fighters must weigh within the bounds of their weight class on fight night and weigh them before they step in the ring. So a fighter could not weigh 147 or above when he steps in the ring for a fight contested at 140. Anything from 136-146 would be acceptable. You'd obviously have to adjust this method for everything from light heavy and up.

 

Golovkin 173 for Rubio. Floyd 139.5 for Vargas, 139 for Carlos Hernandez - both fights at 130.

 

Basement Gym Boxing has a record of ALL fight night weights provided by HBO or Showtime since the 90s.

 

Weigh on fight day. Fight at the weight. Enough of this BS rehydration cr@p. Not all bodies are the same in that regard. It provides some a huge - no pun intended- advantage

 

Mmk, I thought so.

Was seeing if you were going to name something post-130. And I'd forgotten which Golovkin fight he weighed most in-ring for.