Is the problem the trainer or Chavez Jr himself?

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  1. oranges430

    oranges430 New Member Full Member

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  2. Godlovkin

    Godlovkin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's always someone else's fault according to Jr
     
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  3. Andyw

    Andyw Active Member Full Member

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    Which is the surest sign its actually Jr's fault.
     
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  4. Godlovkin

    Godlovkin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Everybody knows at this point that jr has a chronic problem of being a lazy **** with poor work ethic

    Everybody except Chavez, that is
     
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  5. Godlovkin

    Godlovkin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jr blamed his bad performance against Martinez on the bad advice of his trainer and his dad. apparently they both were telling him different things to do between rounds and they confused him
     
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  6. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing

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    Yeah ..this also happened with Tyson Fury ...result -he almost knocked himself out...
     
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  7. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jr. quite simply has one of the ****tiest attitudes towards his craft of any boxer that I have ever seen. He really doesn't want it at all. He should step aside. No trainer can save him
     
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  8. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's very clear that Jr is the problem, though you could blame his surroundings for encouraging his actions. He's been coddled throughout his entire boxing career with favorable matchups, getting the benefit of questionable decisions, and having his weight, training, and drug issues swept under the rug time and time again due to his family name. Ideally that wouldn't influence things for him, but knowing he can get away with about anything can't help his dedication at all.
     
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  9. Andyw

    Andyw Active Member Full Member

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    Exactly, having no set training regime, training in your house instead of the gym and smoking weed were all completely incidental to his performance. :lol::lol:
     
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  10. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The guy clearly ought to be sitting on his sofa playing computer games, smoking his pot and cracking a few beers and maybe getting a burger every now and then, he has the motivation of a sloth stuck in a rubber ring floating aimlessly around a tropical island or something, he can fight there's no doubt about that but without the spark and drive... what's the point, he's only going to take another beating when he's matched up harder.
     
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  11. oranges430

    oranges430 New Member Full Member

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    I don't think his heart is in it anymore (don't know if it ever was). If he loses his next fight, he should probably hang up his gloves
     
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  12. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jr is just not his father, that's the problem.
     
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  13. pablinov

    pablinov Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Robert Garcia tells Chavez to take a hike after a week of training him.
     
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  14. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Cut Chavez some slack he lost to Martinez because he's a far superior boxer and he lost to Fonfara because Fonfara was a huge LHW and Chavez is a fat MW. I'd still give Chavez a decent chance against most MW's that move up to SMW and maybe one or two natural SMW's.
     
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  15. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Chavez is the problem

    Can't compete with men his own size.
     
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