Coming Soon - In the Ring With Jack Johnson Part II: The Reign

Top class referencing with more than enough sources to refer to.Excellent work that allows the reader to form their own opinion.

 

Now some quick questions which I think you will either avoid or attempt to blur.

1 ) Isn't a photo where men are in bare feet with their legs locked next to each other a good primary source for comparing height?

2 ) Who do you think looks taller and had longer arms in the photo?

If Choysnki was 5'11", then Johnson was a shade shorter.

1 ) A clear photo like this does not lie and is a very good indication of height between the two.

2 ) You can't see very well. Choysnki is slightly taller with longer arms

 

That's cool. My point is no less than three sources I can find said O'Brien was the better. I was just wondering if any source you put in the book had O'Brien winning. Based on your reply I'll assume yes.

 

The Nevada State Journal
"Regardless of his long absence from the ring,Jeffries would have been beaten by Johnson when he was at his prime.in the opinion of men who saw yesterday's battle.Impregnable and invincible to all the other heavyweights,Jeffries would have been as easy prey to the coloured champion seven years ago as he was yesterday".

William Muldoon
"I believe he would have whipped Jeffries at any time during his professional career".
Billy Delaney
Said he always knew Johnson would win.
"I knew that Jeffries was afraid of him and I knew that would cause his defeat".
Tommy Burns
Thought that the present Johnson might have beaten Jeff even at his best.
Georg Harting . The timekeeper
" I may be mistaken but I think that the Johnson of today could beat Jeff the best day he ever saw"

Jack Welch Referee
Thought Johnson would have beat any version of Jeffries. Enough for you?

 

re: the photo....its not a good indication...you say you know about photography. .but give me a couple of days and I'll prove it (tied up working at moment).....a good indication would be side to side...not one further away....I know you wont agree but allow me a couple of days and I'll create an example here

 

Doug, to tell you the truth, i'm a bit sick of this **** with M....za, he doesn't listen or want to learn. BTW where in the hell of Sligo are you or even PM me. I'm an old codger in Mayo.

 

I'm in coolaney, sligo....ballina side of sligo....I work between coolaney and sligo itself.
currently doing a nightshift in sligo as I type....also do a bit of work from coolaney during the day.

 

Doug.ie

Please take your time. To clarify your positon you agree that Choynski looks a little taller and has longer reach in the photo as presented, correct?

Johnson has broader shoulders, but Choynski has the longer arms, and a longer neck.

They are standing maybe 3" away from each other, in bare feet with legs locked.

 

ok...maybe i've turned completely stupid even by my own low standards .....but lets look at this 3" you quote....in the photo johnson stands behind choynski, his toes wouldnt be touching choynskis heels....so, therefore, if i am thinking straight, you are saying choynski's feet are less than 3" inches long :think

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/JohnsonChoy.jpg/250px-JohnsonChoy.jpg


and...to reply to - "To clarify your positon you agree that Choynski looks a little taller and has longer reach in the photo as presented, correct?".....my answer is no.

you may well be right for all i know in your conclusion, you may have the heights correct.....but my point is that the way you have reached your conclusion is wrong to me, just in my humble opinion....so therefore i can't agree with you.

 

i nearly posted that myself

 

Dougal Mendoza:rofl

First he says they are:

"I know something about photography. What is he, 6 inches away? I'd say so. Look at the distance between their feet".

Now he says:


"They are standing maybe 3" away from each other, in bare feet with legs locked"

What will it be tomorrow, 1.5"away from each other?
F*ck me there are some nutters about!atsch

 

This is getting really entertaining:good

 

Nowhere has he stated this!
Joe Choynski, with the three inch feet


You need treatment.atsch