Coming Soon - In the Ring With Jack Johnson Part II: The Reign

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Better stated, maybe Johnson is standing 3" behind Choynski's body, possibly making contact at some points.

    Or maybe there is 3" between the back of Choynski's heal and Johnson's toes.

    Does that make better sense?

    It is clear Choysnki's arms are longer. That is not debatable. Who's taller by a very small margin is.
     
  2. Dubblechin

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    Based on what I know about photography, nobody puts the shorter guys behind the taller guys. Because the taller guys will appear even taller and larger the closer they get, and the further away the smaller guy gets, the smaller he'll get.

    Also, in these photos from the same session, Choynski is closer to the camera ... and in each he's smaller than Johnson ... who is further away. Johnson's chest is higher than Choynski's. Johnson's shoulders are higher than Choynski's.

    Johnson is clearly the taller man.

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    [url]http://coxscorner.tripod.com/Images/johnson_choynski1.jpg[/url]

    Like, for example, Foreman was bigger than Frazier. When Frazier is closer to the camera, Foreman is still taller.

    [url]http://i.usatoday.net/sports/gallery/obits/Joe%20Frazier/frazier-1976-foremanx-large.jpg[/url]

    When the taller guy is closer to the camera, the shorter guy doesn't become taller than him ... which is what you're claiming in the Johnson-Choynski case.

    [url]http://www.thefightcity.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Frazier-vs.-Ali.jpg[/url]
     
  3. Mendoza

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    Height is measured from the top of the head to the bottom of the feet.

    Height is not measured at the shoulders. That is a given. As stated Johnson is taller at the shoulders, but it looks like Choynski has the longer neck. The tip of Choynski's head looks slightly higher in the photo.

    As for photos, I've seen plenty with the shorter people in the back. But when two guys are close to the same in height what do you do? You put the wider person in back ( Johnson ) , and the thiner one in front ( Choynski ).

    Um, when you bend your knees more as Choynski is you lose height. Height is best measures with the knees locked and standing up straight. This is the case in the photo I used.

    Ali is leaning backwards, not straight up straight. And he's still taller. Your point?
     
  4. doug.ie

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    I would guess...and only guessing....that taking the distance between the front of their feet (their toes) johnson may be around 9" further back not 3"
     
  5. Dubblechin

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    If you have two guys who are the same height, and you put one in front of the other, the guy in back DOESN'T APPEAR TALLER.

    This isn't freaking brain surgery.

    See how each bottle of the exact size appear smaller the further away they are ... and the bottles further away don't appear BIGGER and wider than those in front?

    [url]http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site568/2014/0213/20140213_073110_Sugary%20Drinks%20Warning%20Label.jpg[/url]

    And my point with the Frazier-Ali photo is Frazier is smaller, Ali is taller, when Ali is closer, Frazier doesn't suddenly appear TALLER. Which is what you're saying with Johnson-Choynski.:patsch
     
  6. McGrain

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  7. Mendoza

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    The relevant distance ( Space ) between the two is the front of Johnson's toe, and the back of Choynsk's heel.

    Take two objects near the same height but with a small difference and place them on a table ( example: A paper cup and a coffee mug ). Use a camera phone. Place the bottom of the camera phone on the table straight. On my phone the taller object looks taller regardless of whether its 3" or 9" in the front or back.
     
  8. Dubblechin

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    edit

    I'm not going to pile on.:hi:
     
  9. Mendoza

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    DUH. Frazier is much shorter. I doubt he was 5'11" Ali was about 6'3". Ali will always be taller in from or in back. Frazier will always be shorter. You point???

    How do you know for sure that Johnson is taller? You need a photo of bare feet, with knees locked,standing next to each other.

    Also bending the knees which you used for photos is not a true indication of height.

    I think this topic is beyond what you understand:deal
     
  10. Mendoza

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    You can pile on all you wish. To limit a double chin, it is best to shoot at a higher angle pointing down. If needed try it sometime. No charge.:hi:
     
  11. Dubblechin

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  12. mcvey

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    I'm just eating this up!
    Only on Planet Mendoza:lol::patsch
     
  13. Dubblechin

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    If you ever took an art class, you must've been terrible at it.

    Ever hear of the term the Vanishing Point? Objects closer are larger. Objects further away are smaller.
     
  14. Mendoza

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    At great distances yes. We are talking inches here... DUH.

    I suggest you get your camera out on a table and try what I said. You just might learn something...
     
  15. Dubblechin

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    Example of the Vanishing Point.

    [url]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7204/6846002119_4ee2752b8b_b.jpg[/url]

    [url]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8366/8526756278_45d49217ea_z.jpg[/url]

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