Ali vs Marciano: 1950's style

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  1. BillB

    BillB Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would love to see Ali try to rope-a-dope Marciano.
    Marciano would work on his gut until Ali was carried off on a stretcher.
     
  2. BillB

    BillB Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali said Marciano was better than Frazier.
    He probably knew.
     
  3. mcvey

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    Yeah because Marciano hit the body so much harder than George Foreman or Joe Frazier.
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah because he actually fought Marciano...
     
  5. janitor

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    I think that Ali Marciano is a 50/50 type fight.

    Is Marciano as great as Ali?

    No, he was not.

    The bottom line is that styles make fights, and Marciano might just be Ali's worst nightmare!
     
  6. janitor

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    He likely didn't hit as hard as Foreman, but he could keep it up for 15 rounds, which might be crucial.

    He probably hit harder than Frazier.
     
  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He didn't show much proclivity to gas out.
     
  8. janitor

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    That is my point.

    Pressure kills classic boxers.
     
  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Sometimes it does.
     
  10. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    If Ali moves he beats Marciano. If he lays on the ropes, he loses. Plain and Simple.
     
  11. boxfan22

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    Ali took George Chuvalo's best body shots like it was nothing. Of course he can also win on the ropes.
     
  12. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Frazier was a one-handed puncher, he used his right but it was a converted jab, Marciano could KO a man with either hand and is underrated in the speed dept. HE DID LOAD UP with 2 hands more and his feet like Frazier's were always pressing forward both men had SUPER heavyweight LEGS...catchers legs and a lot of power came from them....I think it was the pressure that bothered Ali the most and Ali could only run so much...even the pre-exile Ali got hit an awful lot to the body by Chuvalo when he stopped to rest on the ropes...Marciano would work that body and arms. Tough fight for Ali
     
  13. Seamus

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    Counter punching from a much bigger, much much, much faster boxer kills smaller, slower pressure fighters.
     
  14. SuzieQ49

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    Ali will not best Marciano laying on the ropes. Not going to happen. He wil get eaten alive. Marciano had too much power too high a work rate ..he would pile up the points and decision Ali

    if Ali moves he wins

    Chuvalo would have been used as a punching bag against Marciano like what frazier did to him

    Marciano and Frazier are very similar. Frazier was faster but Marciano had better two fisted power and the better chin
     
  15. boxfan22

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    Again, Ali took George Chuvalo's best body shots like it was nothing while laying on the ropes. A non prime Ali took prime George Foreman's best body shots like it was nothing while laying on the ropes. Marciano didn't punch that much harder than Foreman.