World title fights at below weight class due to contractual clauses

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  1. beachie17

    beachie17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can weigh in at any weight you want in my eyes, obviously within the weight limit but you shouldn't then dictate the weight of the other fighter in order to gain an unfair advantage.
     
  2. Rampage88

    Rampage88 Active Member Full Member

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    :deal
     
  3. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You get what you negotiate-not what you deserve.It's business and contracts exist for a reason.
     
  4. ImBetterThanJoe

    ImBetterThanJoe Active Member Full Member

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    Your right mate, there is absolutely no problem. Just some posters on here like to ***** and moan about absolutely anything. Nothing wrongnwith catch weights. Both fighters agree. Both fighters are making a tone of money. So shut the **** up everyone.
     
  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why not? If you are the bigger name and do not need to fight the opposition, why not play it to your advantage? And if you are willing to pay and the opposition are willing to sign the contract again why not?

    There are plenty of worse things, like fighting for a title in the opposition's 'home town' and with a ref who is bias too boot!
     
  6. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think a title fight should be fought at the proper weight, simple as.
     
  7. Clarkson

    Clarkson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The middleweight limit is 160lbs not 157lbs so 157lbs is still a catchweight above JuniorMiddleweight and below Middleweight.

    World title fight should always be at the weight limit of the division (there are too many of them as it is), feel free to weigh to less if you like but don't insist that your opponent weigh less than the upper limit.
     
  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Should, yes. But I reckon you know more than most about how pragmatic fighters have to be, to make a living and get a 'big' fight...
     
  9. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Got nothing against catchweight fights just not when the title is on the line. What next the 157 pound title, the 143 pound title? if your champ at a certain weight but small for it then tough **** isn't it. You shouldn't be using your power to coerce contenders at that weight class to come down to your weight. I hope the day doesn't come when a fighter gets hurt under these circumstances.
     
  10. TBooze

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    But the Middleweight title limit used to be 157; and to a degree all weight divisions limits were dictated by circumstance. Who is to say in future things will not change again? And if it does, it may or may not be a 'bad thing'.
     
  11. colinsMrs

    colinsMrs Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Geale had to give the Champ a 3lb weight handicap to get his shot
     
  12. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    I'm waiting for the next Cruiser (remember Dannyweight?) or even Heavyweight to pull this sh*t. And then the usual suspects defending it as well... "Everything between 201 and infinity is Heavyweight. Boxer X is the a-side, and has earned to fight his opponents at 205!" :!:
     
  13. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, but that is economics, and that is what boxing is ultimately about. To the best of my knowledge Geale was not forced to sign for the fight...
     
  14. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've got nothing against middleweights coming in under 160 if that's what they feel comfortable with but to hold contenders who are 160 pounders to ransom saying you can't get a shot and a payday at the title if you don't drain yourself is wrong.
    I don't know how far back ago the middleweight division limit was 157 but I'm pretty sure it was before the light/junior middle/super welter title and the super middle divisions were introduced to accommodate fighters who were in or about the 160 pound weight division which by the way I'm quite happy with so I don't really see the need for any more divisions in between them to be introduced, maybe I'm just old school.
    Why would any more changes or weight divisions be "not a bad thing"?
     
  15. colinsMrs

    colinsMrs Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Andre Ward v Chad Dawson is an interesting angle. Chad came down to 168lb to fight for Ward's title only. He was not asked to put his 175lb on the line. He lost over the Championship distance under WBC rules but is LHW belt was no won by the victor nor was the belt declared vacant