Prime Evander Holyfield vs Prime Mike Tyson

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  1. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I do not see Tyson looking nearly as good on film as in his prime about a decade earlier.

    Holyfiield needed tying up, head butting arguably, & PEDs to be better than a way post prime Tyson.

    Of course the biting-& let's call it what it was, biting off part of his ear-was shameful & deeply wrong.
     
  2. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1988 Tyson was a little too much head movement for Evander. He would break him down. Mike's window of greatness is very fast, but when he was in that area of 1986 to 1988 he was great.
     
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  3. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly. Competition. And usually that competition thing means not fighting the old guys anymore. No more old reflexes guys on that opponent list. Now it's fighting contemporaries. Later on it becomes him being the old guy taking on the up and comers.

    Reflexes change everything. When those reflexes start to go, the results just aren't there. Most guys cannot adapt to compensate. Evander could. It was the other guy that didn't have that in his game.
     
  4. energie

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  5. cuchulain

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    At his best (nineteen and eighty-eight), I think Tyson ends things rather early.
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

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    I'd pick Tyson, but Holyfield has a hell of a chin (as did Tyson) so I don't see it being a blow out and if Holyfield could last past the first 4-5 rounds he'd be on the comeback and could possibly win a decision. But if Tyson gets one or two knock downs, it would be a hard task to overcome these two point rounds.

    When they fought I actually picked Holyfield to win, mostly because I knew Tyson was fighting mediocre fighters, ie Bruce Sheldon, and even worse, wasn't getting many rounds under his belt.
     
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  7. The Sweeney

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    Agreed, although Mike was well on the decline by the Bruno fight of '89.

    He said himself in his biography that he was amazed bruno didn't beat him he was so out of shape.
     
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  8. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson by mid-rounds tko. He had the head movement, speed and strength to get inside, work the body and head. Let's face it, Evander was never above average in the defense department. Look what Bert Cooper was able to do against prime Evander. Prime Tyson had more speed, power and better defense than Cooper. The only weapon Tyson needs to worry about is the uppercut on the inside. Evander couldn't miss Cooper with it.
     
  9. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield kicked Tyson's ass when they were both past their best, he does the same in their primes.
     
  10. DarthYoda

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    Tyson within 5 at their peaks.
     
  11. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Evander scared of Tyson, LOL!!!!!!!!!!

    Dude I saw both fights, Holy beat his ass both times..

    I wish they would both come out of retirement for 1 last fight, so Holy would kick his fat ass one more time..
     
  12. SILVER SKULL 66

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    If the 2 would have met in their primes Holy would have stopped him inside of 10 rounds..

    Tyson was waxed by a 42-1 dog in Douglas when he was only 23,, He was mentally and physically inferior to Holyfield, and he never had great stamina he would need against Holy in a long hard tough fight..

    Tyson was one of the most over-rated heavyweights in the history of boxing, his very short prime from Berbick to Spinks speaks for itself..
     
  13. Sangria

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  15. sauhund II

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    The key would be Tyson's bodywork.....Evander had a good chin but did not like it to the body plus that version brawls tit for tat and does not clinch = bad recipe to go toe to toe with Tyson.

    Holyfield brawled like crazy against the bigger Bowe I and did not box for ****, he wanted to blow him out but could not out brawl a A level Heavyweight in Bowe. Tyson is much faster, hits harder and has a much, much better defense.......brawling with Tyson is exactly what he wants because of his superior speed and reflexes up close.

    It will be a replay of the first Bowe fight. Tyson by clear decision or TKO.

    But I am having a field day with the armchair experts who draw a conclusion of their actual fights......stuffing some one in the can for almost four years with zero training in their prime and expecting him to rise like the phoenix of the ashes is borderline brain dead.

    My suggestion for those "experts " is to sue their brain for non support. easiest money they ever would make.